Conavirus......

[dado potato]

My friends in Wisconsin feel the governor overreacted when he extended the order 6 weeks at once until the end of May. Considering that Wisconsin has double the population of Nevada and many less cases it appears so. They finally get a Democratic governor and blow it.

I do not have any information about Nevada, but concerning Wisconsin:
As of 5/8/20,
97,265 negative tests.
9,590 positive tests.

On 5/7 Governor Evers announced that there would be free testing of African Americans, Latinos and tribal community members conducted by the Wisconsin National Guard in community testing sites throughout the state.

I would expect that increased testing will have teh effect of increasing the numbers of positives in the state.

Of those already tested positive, there were 1,767 hospitalizations (18.4%), and 384 deaths (4%)

The number of new cases each day is increasing in Wisconsin. The 14-day moving average of the daily new cases keeps going up.
As of 5/8/20 302.42
As of 5/3/20 258.43
As of 4/28/20 195.28
AS of 4/23/20 154.78
and so on back to 3/16/20 when the one-day number of new cases in WI was 47.


In Wisconsin the government "Plan to Get Moving Again" is called The Badger Bounce Back. Those who have watched the antics of the mascot Bucky Badger at UW sporting events may recall how Bucky always bounces back ... often by doing push-ups (wink).
There could be some confusion created by the claim that social distancing "is working", because the exponential rate of increase is slowing, (the number days it takes for the number of new cases to double has increased from 3 to 12 days).
But arithmetically, as I indicated above, there has been no decline in the number of new cases (positive tests) each day.

The Governor continues to adhere to the same Gateway criteria, which are detailed at the linked site. Wisconsin is "opening up" too slow for some residents, and too fast for some others. http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/outbreaks/index

[frugal-one]

I do not have any information about Nevada, but concerning Wisconsin:
As of 5/8/20,
97,265 negative tests.
9,590 positive tests.

On 5/7 Governor Evers announced that there would be free testing of African Americans, Latinos and tribal community members conducted by the Wisconsin National Guard in community testing sites throughout the state.

I would expect that increased testing will have teh effect of increasing the numbers of positives in the state.

Of those already tested positive, there were 1,767 hospitalizations (18.4%), and 384 deaths (4%)

The number of new cases each day is increasing in Wisconsin. The 14-day moving average of the daily new cases keeps going up.
As of 5/8/20 302.42
As of 5/3/20 258.43
As of 4/28/20 195.28
AS of 4/23/20 154.78
and so on back to 3/16/20 when the one-day number of new cases in WI was 47.


In Wisconsin the government "Plan to Get Moving Again" is called The Badger Bounce Back. Those who have watched the antics of the mascot Bucky Badger at UW sporting events may recall how Bucky always bounces back ... often by doing push-ups (wink).
There could be some confusion created by the claim that social distancing "is working", because the exponential rate of increase is slowing, (the number days it takes for the number of new cases to double has increased from 3 to 12 days).
But arithmetically, as I indicated above, there has been no decline in the number of new cases (positive tests) each day.

The Governor continues to adhere to the same Gateway criteria, which are detailed at the linked site. Wisconsin is "opening up" too slow for some residents, and too fast for some others. http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/outbreaks/index

So what do you think? Too fast, too slow or ?

[Yppej]

If people want their state to open up they should refuse to take the test to keep the cases low. If they want it to stay closed they should clamor for testing to keep the number of cases high.

[JaneV2.0]

If people want their state to open up they should refuse to take the test to keep the cases low. If they want it to stay closed they should clamor for testing to keep the number of cases high.

I believe that's known as the Ostrich Method. Trump and his tame governors are all on board with it.

[Alan]

[ToomuchStuff]

On 5/7 Governor Evers announced that there would be free testing of African Americans, Latinos and tribal community members conducted by the Wisconsin National Guard in community testing sites throughout the state.

My guess, is that is a racial discrimination lawsuit, waiting to happen.

[dado potato]

So what do you think? Too fast, too slow or ?

Wisconsin's policy goal is to shift from "boxing in" the entire state population to isolating people who have the virus and could transmit it to others. The rate at which the shift will occur is based on "gating" criteria which are based on daily reports of data from hospitals. To the best of my knowledge the gating criteria were defined by senior public health civil servants, with strong input from the CDC in April. The Governor is a Democrat, and the majority of the Senate and Assembly are Republican. The latest modification of the "Safer at Home" restrictions extended the period to May 26, and permitted opening of:
libraries for pickup and drop off of library materials,
arts and crafts stores for curbside pickup,
and golf courses.

The Wisconsin legislature filed suit in the state Supreme Court for an injunction against the acting Secretary of DHS. The court agreed to hear the case. Will the Court, with its "conservative" majority, side with the Governor or the Legislature? The Governor's argument is that the the executive branch necessarily has broad powers to act in the interests of public health, and it would be dangerous to impede these powers with the technicalities of "rule-making". I am not a lawyer, but I would guess the Court will deny the injunction.

The Chamber of Commerce and the Tavern League of Wisconsin each have expounded alternative plans for all businesses to reopen with procedures to protect workers and customers based on the specific risks that are recognized in each situation. For example, the Tavern League would limit service to 50% of current capacity, and no more than 6 customers at a single table. Customers not sitting around a shared table would be asked to maintain a six-foot distance from other customers. Within both the Chamber of Commerce and the Tavern League there are members who cannot foresee their own continuation in business, unless somehow they are able to reopen, and "get the cash resister to ring again".

It seems to me that the Governor's path of least resistance is to periodically proclaim a limited victory (one after another, whether or not more Wisconsinites are testing positive with COVID-19 on a daily basis... as long as "95% of the hospitals" in the state are not overwhelmed). With each victory, the Governor can say another category of nonessential business can reopen, and the "Safer at Home" policy will continue for a few weeks more. The "best practices" now posted on the website of the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation would improve the safety of employees and customers returning to the businesses that re-open. In my opinion, the business owners who have lost all their revenue since March 17 are unlikely to forgive Governor Evers, but their returning employees and customers will have less reason to carry a grudge.

Too fast/slow? In my opinion the gating criteria as originally expressed by the CDC required a DECLINE in reported cases, and CONTINUED EFFECTIVENESS of hospitals in treating patients without crisis standards of care. As a non-expert, it seemed to me these criteria were a science-based way of assessing the risk of community spread. So I thought the criteria were OK. There may be a tendency to look for success in the data, even when there are more new cases and more deaths caused by COVID-19. For example, Wisconsin sees progress in the decline in trips to hospital emergency rooms for COVID-19, and the decline in exponential spread of the disease ("flattening the curve".) Even though the economy is in a world of hurt, the Badger Bounce Back is not too slow for me.

[dado potato]

The locations of the two new testing sites in Milwaukee are accessible to large numbers of African-American and Latino residents. Mayor Tom Barrett stated, "Anyone who wants to be tested can be tested." No appointment is necessary, there is no requirement to be symptomatic. Starting May 11, each testing site will have a capacity for 500 specimens per day.

[Teacher Terry]

Dado that’s interesting about the positive tests because a few days ago when I looked it said 3800 with the virus.

[dado potato]

Dado that’s interesting about the positive tests because a few days ago when I looked it said 3800 with the virus.

My source is http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov

I rechecked.
On 5/8/20 they reported 9,590 people in WI had tested positive.

On 4/16/20 that number was 3,875. I wonder if perhaps you saw an item from back then.