Conavirus......

[ApatheticNoMore]

I’m not sure you know California geography very well.

nor weather. it's a fact air conditioning will be running in say office buildings year round nearly, you won't escape it in an office even if you are huddling in a ball trying not to freeze, and if not that then heat which may not be any better, not sure we know, but it's the same hvac. It's not the case it's been that hot that outdoor gatherings weren't pleasant, we're getting into hot just the last few days. August and Sept in SoCal will be the real scorchers.

As for the bay area at this point:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...ls/ar-BB16opwJ

the Mexican border it's own thing but much of CA problems if giving l.a. the variance to open when it didn't meet state criteria although it's rising everywhere.

[Yppej]

I saw in the news today that 239 scientists published a letter criticizing the commonly held beliefs about coronavirus. They say it is not just spread by large droplets, but by very fine aerosolized spray. As such, only N95 masks specially fitted to one's face will stop it. I was happy to see this scientific support for my position. Maybe I do know something after all!

[Teacher Terry]

Even if it’s true doing nothing is still worse than wearing masks, social distancing, etc. It’s the same as saying since condoms don’t work 100% let’s not use them at all.

[happystuff]

I saw in the news today that 239 scientists published a letter criticizing the commonly held beliefs about coronavirus. They say it is not just spread by large droplets, but by very fine aerosolized spray. As such, only N95 masks specially fitted to one's face will stop it. I was happy to see this scientific support for my position. Maybe I do know something after all!

This article? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/h...-airborne.html

I suggest you re-read it.

Quote from article:

The coronavirus is finding new victims worldwide, in bars and restaurants, offices, markets and casinos, giving rise to frightening clusters of infection that increasingly confirm what many scientists have been saying for months: The virus lingers in the air indoors, infecting those nearby.

If airborne transmission is a significant factor in the pandemic, especially in crowded spaces with poor ventilation, the consequences for containment will be significant. Masks may be needed indoors, even in socially-distant settings. Health care workers may need N95 masks that filter out even the smallest respiratory droplets as they care for coronavirus patients.

My take-away is... WEAR A MASK!

[bae]

I saw in the news today that 239 scientists published a letter criticizing the commonly held beliefs about coronavirus. They say it is not just spread by large droplets, but by very fine aerosolized spray. As such, only N95 masks specially fitted to one's face will stop it. I was happy to see this scientific support for my position. Maybe I do know something after all!

You can't just read the words in a study that agree with your preconceptions, and then claim victory, Jon Snow...

[ApatheticNoMore]

someone (in the U.S.!) mentioned hearing about covid being in this or that location from contract tracing and I almost fell off my chair, wait how could that exist? I mean we don't actually do contract tracing in the U.S. do we, politicians like to talk about it sure, but very little really happening as far as anyone is able to ascertain (seems darn hard to ascertain). Well yes Virginia (I don't know about in Virginia) apparently there is contract tracing going on. Most of the whole north east is entirely serious about it and doing it on everyone, but in California barely any (I knew it, the whole thing was a black hole mystery that politicians would talk about here and there, in fact I've heard people tracking data say they had little data on the extent of contract tracing , but I finally found some data fwiw). No, it's not a panacea for covid, it was just a mystery to me.

Here's Oregon:
https://www.covidactnow.org/us/or?s=647107

[bae]

We do contact tracing in my county and have done so since Day One of this.

[Yppej]

My aunt is a nurse and her skills could be used in this outbreak but she has taken retirement since she is worried, not about contracting the virus, but about breathing in her own carbon dioxide by wearing a mask 8 hours a day.

[Tybee]

We do contact tracing in our community, too.

[jp1]

The Bay Area is also very much doing contact tracing. But we are fortunate to have fairly robust social services here. And a willingness to provide money And other assistance to people who have covid but can’t afford to lose income by quarantining, etc. Trying to set up tracing somewhere like Florida is likely to be less successful for any number of reasons.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/a...f-15372556.php