Conavirus......

[ApatheticNoMore]

Oh I blame the powers that be for opening the economy up too soon. SHUT IT DOWN AND KEEP IT SHUT until you are actually able to open safely. I don't forgive them for placing short term economic gain over human life and opening up way too soon with no plan for containment.

But there is ever mounting evidence that masks are effective including for the wearer (not 100% effective, they don't need to be for public health). A substitute for shutting it down, that's increasingly a Trump administration propaganda line, that untested, it's purely modeling based on a very optimistic projection of human behavior at that (near 90% mask use - crazy optimistic if you ask me). We have actual tested interventions but are simply frankly utterly unable to do them, so we rely on seriously optimistic modeling of human behavior and hope, that and hoping for a vaccine.

Failures of testing is of course a misdirection at this point (it was true early on of course). But at this point we would have ENOUGH testing if we didn't have an exploding number cases. This level of explosion of cases was never planned. The failure was reopening too soon.

[Tammy]

Arizona just announced that renters can’t be evicted this month - extended to oct 31.

[frugal-one]

It's almost a month now since California's mask mandate and cases continue to surge there. When will people realize if it's not an N95 mask specially fitted to your face then a face covering is useless? Placebo effects can't stop this virus.

Of course blaming people for not wearing masks deflects attention from the failures in testing by the powers that be.

Err on the side of caution... wear a mask. If it helps great. If not, you did your best. trump now is having CDC report COVID numbers to the white house only. Nazi dictator wanna be is worried he is going to lose the election if the numbers continue to rise.

[ApatheticNoMore]

Err on the side of caution... wear a mask. If it helps great. If not, you did your best.

Yea we did our best considering none of these decisions were democratic, early on I was writing state reps to expand sick time (still would be nice since most spread may be symptomatic even if asymptomatic spread seems to exist as well). I wrote the governor to listen to science not politics on opening up. I know futile but. I think I even wrote my awful county rep and I hate them, not to open up. I write Fed reps but the Fed gov is largely hopeless, so that's mostly just attempts to stop things from getting even worse generally, I don't have hope for covid response there. I fight for myself, I nag my family. I wear masks, I've worn googles at times, I may add a face shield to my mask. We will have done what we can do. We are ruled by the worst, just the worst (there are degrees Newsom is not de Santis - still there is an across the board failure here).

[jp1]

And now I just found out that a good friend of mine from high school (hospice nurse who has had a bunch of covid patients) is positive and fairly sick. In addition to feeling like crap physically she's beating herself up over every possible person she might have infected over the last two weeks, despite wearing a mask ALL THE TIME.

She did things right and shouldn't feel guilty. Hopefully, like the hair stylists in Missouri she didn't infect anyone. WEAR A G.D. EFFING MASK.

[ApatheticNoMore]

If we are running out of tests, and they are likely to ration them in CA, so yes testing is strained, why haven't we moved to pool testing? Fuaci argued for it, it seemed like it could work. And yes the main fault lies in opening too soon without a plan, testing can't cure that, but still we are running out of testing supplies. Of course maybe too much of the population here has it at this point for that to work.

[Tradd]

I just mailed off the cancellation form for my gym membership. There was a senior citizen in the back yesterday (nowhere near me at the time) who had one heck of a dry cough that wouldn’t stop. He had to have passed the temp check. He was coughing while I was leaving so I said something to the girl at the desk.

I’ve got my bike for outside and YouTube videos for cardio, as well as weights for at home.

[Teacher Terry]

Medical experts are saying if everyone would wear a mask for the next 4-6 weeks this would all be behind us.

[bae]

I’ve got my bike for outside and YouTube videos for cardio, as well as weights for at home.

I've given up on the Big Gym entirely. I use my indoor and outdoor bikes, my weights, hikes in the forest, and the very small gym in my outlying fire station that only 6 of us are stationed at, and where I think I'm the only one using the equipment ever.

[Tradd]

I've given up on the Big Gym entirely. I use my indoor and outdoor bikes, my weights, hikes in the forest, and the very small gym in my outlying fire station that only 6 of us are stationed at, and where I think I'm the only one using the equipment ever.

I wish I had room for an indoor bike. I don't. And with my knees, walking for any distance hurts. Forget about running or hiking.