2020 Presidential Candidates

[jp1]

Judging from the comments on Fox news articles about federal troops without badges grabbing random people off the streets in Portland and arresting them for exercising their first amendment rights, despite both the Oregon governor and Portland mayor asking that the troops be removed it appears that trumpers now fully support his desire to end federalism and descend into authoritarianism. Funny how all the things republicans supposedly hold dear have been found to be completely unimportant to them now.

[Alan]

Judging from the comments on Fox news articles about federal troops without badges grabbing random people off the streets in Portland and arresting them for exercising their first amendment rights, despite both the Oregon governor and Portland mayor asking that the troops be removed it appears that trumpers now fully support his desire to end federalism and descend into authoritarianism. Funny how all the things republicans supposedly hold dear have been found to be completely unimportant to them now.

Haven't the peaceful protesters been defacing and destroying Federal property within the city limits? If so it seems appropriate to stop them if possible, especially since it's been going on for what, a month, and the Mayor showing no interest in putting them in check. The city has lost police stations and their justice center to arson and it's my understanding the Feds take a dimmer view of having the same happen to their properties.

I would think the residents of Portland would be ready to put all this foolishness behind them by now and possibly prefer a little law and order over rampant anarchy. But maybe not.

[iris lilies]

They are still rioting in Portland?

hunh. Well that is silly.

[ApatheticNoMore]

Funny how all the things republicans supposedly hold dear have been found to be completely unimportant to them now.

that's been completely obvious for years. That Republicans actually caring about civil liberties, ROFLOL.

[bae]

I guess I'd like a few more details on this "people being disappeared by anonymous federal agents" business before I go all Solzhenitsyn on folks.

[JaneV2.0]

I guess I'd like a few more details on this "people being disappeared by anonymous federal agents" business before I go all Solzhenitsyn on folks.

It's been pretty well documented in Portland. With photos and videos. The governor, mayor, both senators, and the ACLU are firmly opposed. (And I don't see how anyone wouldn't be--what happened to "states' rights?" They seem to disappear when Republicans want them to.

People are still demonstrating peacefully. If there's any violence it's either agitators or Trump's Stasi that are causing it.

[Yppej]

I filled out my application to vote by mail, a first for me, and will mail it in Monday.

[bae]

It's been pretty well documented in Portland. With photos and videos.

I mean, details like:

- which agencies?
- operating under what legal authority?
- what precisely did they do?
- does that stray from the law?
- is there some rule-of-law remedy in progress?

Don't go Full Solzhenitsyn before doing the homework.

[iris lilies]

I filled out my application to vote by mail, a first for me, and will mail it in Monday.

I debated about voting by mail in our next election coming up in a couple of weeks, but I have to notarize it. And while our neighborhood has set up a notary in a convenient, open air place for this event, I think by the time I go out to notarize it I might as well go in to the regular polling place to vote. These non major elections are always sparsely attended. When it comes to the November election I will likely vote absentee though because I don’t want to stand in those long lines.

DH is no longer working the polls, he is done with that madness.

[ApatheticNoMore]

maybe we'll be able to vote by mail, maybe

https://apnews.com/59c25efd4d325c4895f8ba85517f9bfd