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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    Thanks, Catherine, that's a good explanation. I know nothing about it, so I appreciated that.
    I just found this link by Charles Eisenstein who explains it far better than I can. If you're interested, Sacred Economics is an awesome book.

    https://charleseisenstein.org/essays...of-transition/
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I just found this link by Charles Eisenstein who explains it far better than I can. If you're interested, Sacred Economics is an awesome book.

    https://charleseisenstein.org/essays...of-transition/
    Excellent - thanks for your explanation, which is great! And for this one.

    I appreciate that there is the idea of "gratitude" in all of this as well. I think some people these days feel more of a sense of "entitlement" versus "gratitude". The way I figure it - I came into this world with nothing, I'll leave with nothing, so I'm trying to be grateful for everything in between.
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    My parents were scrupulous about not favoring one kid over another. My sister got somewhat different treatment for being the only girl. She and I (I'm the oldest; she's next) will tell you that my parents were somewhat easier on my brother than they were on us. But that was in part because he had to deal with the expectations of teachers and others after having had both me and my sister in classes -- his personality is quite different from ours and schoolwork was not #1 on his list as it was on ours.

    Financially, we've all been treated pretty much equally, as well. My brother probably got a little more "bailed out" than my sister and I have because he chose the lowest-paying career and then got hit with his progressive neuromuscular disease. There's not going to be an "estate" when my mom passes. I'm kind of hoping she speeds up some of her "Swedish Death Cleaning" before it falls to my sister and me along with figuring out where my brother will have to move.

    I guess I don't see any patriarchy here, either.
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    Panera tried some “pay what you can” locations. It was not a successful experiment.

    https://capitalresearch.org/article/...periment-fail/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveinMN View Post
    My parents were scrupulous about not favoring one kid over another. My sister got somewhat different treatment for being the only girl. She and I (I'm the oldest; she's next) will tell you that my parents were somewhat easier on my brother than they were on us. But that was in part because he had to deal with the expectations of teachers and others after having had both me and my sister in classes -- his personality is quite different from ours and schoolwork was not #1 on his list as it was on ours.

    Financially, we've all been treated pretty much equally, as well. My brother probably got a little more "bailed out" than my sister and I have because he chose the lowest-paying career and then got hit with his progressive neuromuscular disease. There's not going to be an "estate" when my mom passes. I'm kind of hoping she speeds up some of her "Swedish Death Cleaning" before it falls to my sister and me along with figuring out where my brother will have to move.

    I guess I don't see any patriarchy here, either.
    I hear you all. Glad your world is not like the one I experienced, bowing out of this topic, catherine, interesting topic and hope the world moves closer to .this new paradigm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Panera tried some “pay what you can” locations. It was not a successful experiment.

    https://capitalresearch.org/article/...periment-fail/

    The St. Louis pay pay-what-you-can Panera lasted eight years so I’m not sure I would consider that unsuccessful.


    I know that I personally do not like Panera food, I think it’s pretty crappy. It’s overrated. And I would be annoyed to walk in to one of these places and find no prices. However, the one in St. Louis had “suggested prices” so I would’ve been fine with that.

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    We were all treated the same and had lots of love and attention. There were 3 of us and being the youngest my parents were more easy going. My mom lived so long that she spent her money traveling which we encouraged her to do. Didn’t leave any debts either and paid for her funeral plus planned it including asking people to sing, etc.

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    I’m the oldest, I have one sister. I worked for my dads construction company during the summers starting around 15, my sister stayed home. I was paid and had new company trucks to drive as I wanted thru college, my sister didn’t receive a car till she started college. We were treated a little differently, but it was more being boy and girl than I was 2 years older.

    I bought my first car with my own money when I was 22, it was a 1966 Chevy Corvette convertable. When I got out of college one of the benefits I received was a company vehicle, so I could buy a fun car for myself. My dad had given me a nice truck when I turned 21, I traded that truck in for a new car for my wife, I also got married when I was 22.

    I did not work for my dad after college.

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    The whole idea of a "gift economy" doesn't sound viable to me as a large-scale economic system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happystuff View Post

    I appreciate that there is the idea of "gratitude" in all of this as well. I think some people these days feel more of a sense of "entitlement" versus "gratitude". The way I figure it - I came into this world with nothing, I'll leave with nothing, so I'm trying to be grateful for everything in between.
    I agree.
    From August 1-November each year, I am filled with gratitude to my parents who had the foresight, wisdom and courage to move to Canada arriving in the month of August to give all their children an opportunity and freedom from political, cultural and social strata issues. I obtained an excellent education, employment, married a remarkable delightful partner, had two healthy children, scanty at times but sufficient resources and along the way, I have met good neighbours with whom is exchanged support freely. Gratitude is a way of life throughout my life.
    As Cicero said, “Gratitude is not only the greatest of virtues, but the parent of all the others.”

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