Conavirus......

[Tammy]

This approach makes the most sense to me - harm reduction

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[Teacher Terry]

It makes sense to me too. California has great weather in many places to allow outdoor dining, exercising, etc. It’s particularly difficult for people that live alone. Today will be sunny and 55 so my kids will come over and we will be outside wearing masks and staying 6 ft apart. They go nowhere except for walks. They enter through the side gate. We do this weekly and also have a patio heater. One day we lasted 2 hours and on thanksgiving only 20 minutes because it was so cold.

[Yppej]

I saw on the news the vaccines may be free, but doctors can charge to inject you. A doctor's visit costs me over $100 until I meet my deductible and I have better insurance than most. How many people are going to rush to get vaccinated when there are out of pocket costs? If the vaccine is rolled out in the first quarter of next year most will not have met their deductibles.

[Rogar]

I saw on the news the vaccines may be free, but doctors can charge to inject you. A doctor's visit costs me over $100 until I meet my deductible and I have better insurance than most. How many people are going to rush to get vaccinated when there are out of pocket costs? If the vaccine is rolled out in the first quarter of next year most will not have met their deductibles.

I picture the vaccine being available at drive throughs or the local supermarket or big box pharmacy much like the flu shot.

My doc tried to charge me for administering a shot a year or two ago. Insurance denied the charge and I never got billed.

[ApatheticNoMore]

This approach makes the most sense to me - harm reduction

https://apple.news/ALNLXnZcnT82PkpXkjn5Bow

people aren't stupid either. Seeing others outside your household is variously illegal or not illegal but highly advised against (it's almost never not one or the other - 9 months anyone living alone was supposed to go without almost all human contact and stare at happy graphics of a nuclear families with 2.5 kids and a dog as the only acceptable human contact) unless … MONEY CHANGES HANDS ding ding ding.

So seeing people outside your household indoors or outdoors was banned during the same period where indoor restaurants and bars were legal! Oh yea socializing in a park sure is more dangerous than a bar. Seeing others outside was advised against when outside dining was legal. A fool can see what is going on here and it's NOT public health, it's all about the Benjamin$. Then sometimes their message is literally everyone should sacrifice all social contact IN ORDER to keep businesses open. Sheesh this martyr on the alter of capitalism message is really not going to work (even though everyone does get we are in a world of economic hurt). I would have put money on they weren't going to close shops until after black Friday no matter how bad it got. What do I win?

Like I said seeing my boyfriend is almost always advised against and outright illegal half the time. He's the only person I see indoors other than when I shop. I work from home during this pandemic. He works in a masked office and I acknowledge the risk, and doesn't see anyone else indoors except at the office and shopping either. Visiting people outside distanced is always advised against and outright illegal half the time as well.

[JaneV2.0]

A lot of people are struggling, if they're not going under for the third time. They can't afford injection charges.
IMO, employers of essential workers should provide shots and masks to all.

[jp1]

I’ve only ever gone to the doc for a vaccination if I was already going to the doc so I’ve no idea if he would attempt to charge me. I just put my flat $20 copay for the visit. When I’ve need one otherwise I’ve gone to a pharmacy like walgreeens or at the grocery store. Safeway here has signs all over saying ‘get your free* flu shot with an * at the bottom saying ‘with most insurance’. I assume they will do the same once they have covid vaccine.

[Tradd]

I’ve only ever gone to the doc for a vaccination if I was already going to the doc so I’ve no idea if he would attempt to charge me. I just put my flat $20 copay for the visit. When I’ve need one otherwise I’ve gone to a pharmacy like walgreeens or at the grocery store. Safeway here has signs all over saying ‘get your free* flu shot with an * at the bottom saying ‘with most insurance’. I assume they will do the same once they have covid vaccine.

Same here. I’ve gotten flu shot at Walgreens or the grocery store pharmacy for years. Got both doses of shingles vaccine that way, too. I expect those same places will be distributing the covid vaccine. Much more efficient and accessible than doctors’ offices.

[jp1]

I looked into pricing for the shingrix shots before I got them because it wasn’t clear if the aca rules meant that they’d be fully covered. It ended up being cheapest to just go to the doc and pay the copay. Costco and walgreens were both going to charge over $100 for the two shots. Two $20 copays at doc was the best deal.

[Tradd]

I just don’t get people.

A friend in his mid 20s lives at home with parents and younger sibs still in high school. Grandpa lives with the family and is high risk due to age and some medical conditions. All work from home/do online school. Friend’s sister and her VERY compromised immune system boyfriend are driving in from FL for Christmas. Friend was supposed to go diving with me this weekend but cancelled due to the sister’s BF coming in for Christmas. Outside activity. Social distanced above water. Can’t pass it underwater. “We have to be very careful,” he told me. I asked him what about very at risk people NOT traveling? How is this a good idea?