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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    The Spanish flu only infected a third of the world's population before herd immunity was achieved. You do not need to infect 100% of people to achieve herd immunity and for a virus to die off.
    Did the Spanish flu really end? An informative article for your edification.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/histo...-pandemic-end/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Did the Spanish flu really end? An informative article for your edification.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/histo...-pandemic-end/
    I will settle for what the article terms "generally attenuated" and a return to life as normal.

    I have been thinking of other spreads. The Second Great Awakening raced through places like upstate New York sweeping up susceptible people in its path, until it was "burnt over", but not everyone participated in revivals.

    Similarly we talk about things like "a crack cocaine epidemic" that wanes even if it does not die, and does so without infecting everyone.

    My point is you don't need 100% exposure to end something "gone viral". The curve slopes downward eventually anyways.

    I think there is some real authoritarian thinking amongst some, that everyone must wear masks forever. The Spanish flu never ended according to your article, but the mask wearing sure did in the Roaring 20's. We can get to good enough and return to normal. We do not have to get to everyone's idea of perfect health outcomes, perfect vaccination rates, etc. People are so weary of being cooped up and controlled and it is creating lots of blowback in terms of mental health not to mention the economy.

    Nowadays the people who stopped wearing masks in the 1920's would be vilified and accused of social Darwinism, racism, ageism, and a few other sins.

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    I’m not a senior citizen and I’ve lost my current career to covid. Maybe Yppej doesn’t know me ...

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    I had a severe reaction to shnagrix. Fever of 101 at it’s peak but it quickly subsided. Had to leave work and go home and be miserable for a day. I simply scheduled the second shot on a Friday afternoon. Had the same reaction the second time. And now hopefully I won’t ever get shingles. If the covid vaccination causes the same problem I’m good with that. Unlike some people (apparently) my middle aged friends
    Who have had covid found that to be much worse. Every one of them has been ‘you don’t want this. Here is what I endured...’

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    I've had multiple patients with severe shingles. It is not a pretty thing - I think the screaming from agony probably bothered me the most.

    Get your vaccinations.

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    A very dear friend of mine, seven years younger than me, had shingles when I was in my early 30’s. For months we’d be together and he’s shout ‘OW!’ And slap his face where the shingles had ‘shingled.’ He was miserable for almost a year, despite being too young to be a major risk of shingles. Yeah, no thanks. But at least shingles doesn’t kill most people. With covid it’s all the more scary. Unless one hates masks and views them as the Worst Thing Ever...

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    Watching the nightly national news is heartbreaking. Plenty of young people dying. A mom gives birth, can’t hold her baby and goes right on a ventilator. She dies a few days later. A guy lost all 4 of his siblings. The stories are endless.

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    I catch some of these stories here and there, but I no longer seek them out. It’s become too painful for me.

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    The truly heartbreaking is the "deadliest days of american history" which shows 9/11 and katrina, and pearl harbor, and then the other 4 days are "last wednesday" and "last thursday" etc. So many people dying because of trump's stupidity.

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    Deadliest days?

    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-history-cont/

    This link also discusses percent of the population in addition to sheer numbers:

    https://slate.com/technology/2020/12...k-twitter.html

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