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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    New Hampshire and American Samoa are the only state and territory without a seat belt law for adults. However, New Hampshire is currently considering a secondary adult seat belt law for all seats.Jul 23, 2020

    ....close enough
    There are beaucoup exceptions. Perhaps you’re not capable of googling them? In case you’re not, here are some:

    Everyone in the car must wear seatbelts,

    ...except for everyone behind the front seats (in my state.) In our station wagon that would’ve been 3/4 of people in the car not required to wear seatbelts

    ... except if you are driving on your own private land

    ...unless you have one of any of a dozen physical/health reasons that earns you an exemption ( Iowa law) I assume similar across all states)


    to name a few exceptions

    The overarching idea is that seatbelts are good and save lives/ prevent injuries, but individual exceptions, degree of penalty, and enforcement are left up to individual states. Just like now with coronavirus where the overarching idea is that precautions save lives and prevent long-term health problems, but individual states and locales determine what is appropriate, severity restrictions, and how enforcement is carried out.
    Our local cops can’t even keep half of the lawbreakers around here from breaking obvious dangerous laws so I have no idea how they’re going to enforce coronavirus penalties. Well I do have an idea – they are not going to do it even if old Joe and Kamila deem it necessary.

    Do you really think Congress and Joe will push through a federal law About coronavirus precautions and penalties so that everything is exactly the same in every jurisdiction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Our local cops can’t even keep half of the lawbreakers around here from breaking obvious dangerous laws so I have no idea how they’re going to enforce coronavirus penalties. Well I do have an idea – they are not going to do it even if old Joe and Kamila deem it necessary.
    Our local Sheriff, at the beginning of the pandemic, when we were adopting our local regulations, testified to the County Council and the Health Board that he would be unable to carry out any widespread enforcement efforts, as he simply didn't have the resources to do so.

    Some folks quickly took that as a sign that he was a "science-denier" or whatnot, and tried to lynch the guy, but he was speaking truth. He doesn't have the resources to deal with our drunk drivers and speeders here - policing what goes on inside businesses and homes is simply beyond the capabilities of the department.

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    I could see Biden trying to deny covid aid to states that don't mandate masks or other things he wants. In the past states were strong armed into dropping their speed limits or else lose Federal highway aid.

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    I probably don't have the BMI that sugar would have to be banned for me, so I can eat what I want, thank you genes. Because I've taken the genetic tests, and I don't have genes that predispose me to obesity as far as was tested. They predispose me to be very average weight influenced a bit up or down by environment. And indeed I am (come in under what is predicted guess that small amount is effort - but by and large I am where my genetics would land me, no more no less than my genetic destiny). No they don't predispose me to be thin alas, so that I can eat anything and not gain a pound and look like a model, but no predisposition to be overweight either. So sugar come to mama, haha, nah it's still not healthy of course, love it though I do.
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    Today's stats from my state - average age of covid hospitalization 69. Average age of covid death 80. Too bad we can't have regulations based on this, like we do at the other end of the spectrum (you can't drink until you're 21, drive until a certain age, etc). It would be nice if stores sanitized overnight, seniors could only shop early during senior hour, and the rest of us could breathe freely maskless in stores. There have been numerous times I feel nauseous like I can't breathe. Masks are awful.

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    It would be nice if the few, and it is very few, people who can't breath in masks, discovered grocery delivery. And stopped whining, since most of us have no problem breathing in masks doing a grocery run.
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    There are plenty of exceptions to that "only disposable old people die of COVID." My friend's 40-something friend is a long-hauler with abnormal blood results, ongoing fatigue, and POTS even now, though she supposedly "recovered" from her infection in April. Masks have been shown to work over and over, and they're only a minor inconvenience for most people. I'm sorry you're having such a horrible time with this, Yppej.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    There have been numerous times I feel nauseous like I can't breathe. Masks are awful.
    I could intubate you if you want, so you have a basis for comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    There are beaucoup exceptions. Perhaps you’re not capable of googling them? In case you’re not, here are some:

    Everyone in the car must wear seatbelts,

    ...except for everyone behind the front seats (in my state.) In our station wagon that would’ve been 3/4 of people in the car not required to wear seatbelts

    ... except if you are driving on your own private land

    ...unless you have one of any of a dozen physical/health reasons that earns you an exemption ( Iowa law) I assume similar across all states)


    to name a few exceptions

    The overarching idea is that seatbelts are good and save lives/ prevent injuries, but individual exceptions, degree of penalty, and enforcement are left up to individual states. Just like now with coronavirus where the overarching idea is that precautions save lives and prevent long-term health problems, but individual states and locales determine what is appropriate, severity restrictions, and how enforcement is carried out.
    Our local cops can’t even keep half of the lawbreakers around here from breaking obvious dangerous laws so I have no idea how they’re going to enforce coronavirus penalties. Well I do have an idea – they are not going to do it even if old Joe and Kamila deem it necessary.

    Do you really think Congress and Joe will push through a federal law About coronavirus precautions and penalties so that everything is exactly the same in every jurisdiction?
    You definitely are a trump republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    I could see Biden trying to deny covid aid to states that don't mandate masks or other things he wants. In the past states were strong armed into dropping their speed limits or else lose Federal highway aid.
    That is true, the old pork tricks of The Swamp can be utilized.

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