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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeParker View Post
    Please be clear about this. Some people have died after getting the vaccine. There is no evidence that anyone has died because of getting the vaccine. Ref: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

    Quote: "Over 92 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 8, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 1,637 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS."
    Good point. I suppose all of us who are vaccinated will die after having been vaccinated, sooner or later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosarugosa View Post
    Good point. I suppose all of us who are vaccinated will die after having been vaccinated, sooner or later.
    True. And people who’ve not been vaccinated die every day as well. 1,637 is just over 100 people per week during that time frame. A drop in the bucket compared to the number of people who would be expected to die of some cause considering that 2.8 million people die in the US during an average year. (That’s almost 54,000 per week). So could they have died from the vaccine? Sure. Did they? Probably not but it’s good that the deaths are being investigated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    I hope so Jane. Some older people have died after getting the vaccine, but it seems better to get it than not because if you don't get it the virus can kill you.
    Yes, someone in my circle died after Having been in a nursing home for several years, had Covid, recovered, was given the vaccine, and died soon after. It is hard for his family to accept that was a coincidence.


    What does “the science” say about this? I don’t know, I haven’t poked around the Internet to see what’s going on about it since I doubt there’s any authoritative information yet.
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    Some years ago my aunt died in her sleep. Ever since I've been afraid to go to sleep since obviously sleep kills people.

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    It's true we don't know anything for sure about long term safety, but it's the only way we are going to get our lives back. So it's the obvious choice IMO, to get the vaccine. Not that everyone could hide forever even if they wanted to, not possible. That person in the nursing home is the kind of edge case that would make me wonder if they needed to get vaccinated, confirmed with a test to already have immunity and feeble, hmm.
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    The National guard here is doing a drive through vaccine so you never get out of your car or close to others. Then you sit in a parking lot 15 minutes to make sure that you are fine or 30 if you have had a reaction previously to a vaccine.

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    Finally got my J&J vaccine today after being turned down for a pfizer a few weeks back. One and done baby!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Some years ago my aunt died in her sleep. Ever since I've been afraid to go to sleep since obviously sleep kills people.
    So you are categorically denying any relationship between Covid vaccine and death in the elderly? Interesting. That doesn’t seem very open minded to any science that may come down the pike.


    https://www.thestreet.com/latest-new...t-of-the-story

    This article talks about death among the elderly with a Pfizer vaccine and how there appears to be a link.

    Being a little more open minded to this possibility than you apparently are, I think it’s reasonable to be concerned about frail persons who have already survived Covid been given en masse this vaccine.

    I accept that some serious side effects or even death may result across society from this immunization effort. Side effects and death happen with any immunization. But to purposely block out an at risk population if the science is sketchy about it seems wrongheaded.

    In the dog world this reminds me of people who are hysterical about neutering and spaying their pets. Actually they’re hysterical about me neutering and spaying MY pets. They’re attempting to solve a societal problem of over population by demanding my health compromised pets go through major surgery. No I don’t think so.

    And Poor Hank Aaron, 86, who took the Covid shot to show African-Americans it is safe and he then died. Oh I know it’s been determined there’s no connection, and I believe that, but man the optics are bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplemind View Post
    Finally got my J&J vaccine today after being turned down for a pfizer a few weeks back. One and done baby!!!
    Good news!

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    I think we need to examine deaths after getting the vaccine so proper advice can be given to this population prior to making the decision. People in rescue get rapid about fixing dogs where in some instances it’s just not necessary but dangerous.

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