I watch MSNBC. I've been a fan of Rachel Maddow since her Air America days (love her narrative historical lead-ups to current events), and enjoy all their talent, with the exception of Chuck Todd, who is no Edward R Murrow* (or Tim Russert, for that matter).Originally Posted by catherine
Fun fact: original name: Egbert Roscoe Murrow
Just got lunch at Subway. They have taken down the mask required sign so I didn’t wear it in. Employees all masked. Customers (about 10 in line) were about half and half. One masked woman was harassing the unmasked customers. I ignored her while I was getting my food. She started on me again as I was walking toward the door. I told her “my body, my choice” and she about lost it. She started following me and I suggested that she did not want to do that. She ended up not following me. A Subway employee was calling the cops as I left.
Tradd it's sad how some people are so stuck on masks. Masks didn't save us, vaccines did. Rates of infection often were similar between states with mask mandates and those without, but oh boy do vaccines make a difference. Rates are now really only high in anti-vax areas like Oregon.
ETA you may remember Oregon has also had measles outbreaks because they are an anti-vaxer hotspot.
Last edited by Yppej; 5-18-21 at 5:42pm.
Ummmm, Oregon is the 17th best state in percentage of fully vaxxed individuals.
How hard must you look for bullshit "facts" like this? You just don't stop do you.
Maine - currently - one of the highest rates of vaccination. One of the highest rates of infection.
There is still plenty of covid to go around for the unmasked who would like to try breeding resistant strains in the convenience of their own bodies.
As I understand it, numerous factors enter into rates of infection and localities can do everything (at least everything controllable) right but still get worse results than areas blessed with more fortunate circumstances. The best that can be hoped for is seeking ways to decrease the probability of infection until herd immunity is reached. That’s why I think trying to view this disease through a red or blue political lens is spiteful and silly.
The vaccines are not 100% effective, so even a vaccinated person has a non-trivial chance of getting the disease from exposure to an infected person. If there’s a reasonable, however imperfect chance masks can help there then I don’t see what the problem is. But I also don’t see self-appointed enforcers or scofflaws making much difference.
I am living in Maine, in a very rural area, although I travel to the largest urban area weekly, and I can report we are also a high rate of mask-wearing, much higher than where I used to live, Michigan.
So whatever is going on in Maine, it is not because people are not wearing masks.
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