Labor Actions (Strikes)

[jp1]

I suppose if strikers getting struck by vehicles intentionally is as much of a thing as evil police are then at least one of these events will have a cell phone wielding teenager collecting receipts.

[bae]

Didn’t they teach you in driver’s Ed that it’s acceptable to run people over?

I was not free to go about my business, move, or even to exit my vehicle. Because of the intentional actions of other people, who freely admitted to local press that they "wanted people to feel the fear".

Well, RCW 9A.40.040 says such actions are a Class C felony.

RCW 9A.16.020 and RCW 9A.16.050 state that force can be used to prevent such things, or to escape from them.

Furthermore, the way the protestors were milling around in the blind spots of vehicles seemed quite likely to produce injuries. I almost simply parked the car in the middle of the intersection and exited, abandoning the vehicle, save that I was unable to even get out of it.

[iris lilies]

I was not free to go about my business, move, or even to exit my vehicle. Because of the intentional actions of other people, who freely admitted to local press that they "wanted people to feel the fear".

Well, RCW 9A.40.040 says such actions are a Class C felony.

RCW 9A.16.020 and RCW 9A.16.050 state that force can be used to prevent such things, or to escape from them.

Furthermore, the way the protestors were milling around in the blind spots of vehicles seemed quite likely to produce injuries. I almost simply parked the car in the middle of the intersection and exited, abandoning the vehicle, save that I was unable to even get out of it.

Class C felony won’t even get you a look from our city prosecutor.

For every sad story of a protestor being run down (and it IS sad whether accidental or intentional) there are hundreds, and lately thousands of people unable to “go about their business” or move their vehicle due to protestors illegally occupying public streets. Interstate 70 is a popular spot for shutting down traffic here in St. louis. Big semi-trucks screeching to a halt, and then sitting for hours is what the protestors want, apparently.

https://www.kmov.com/news/george-flo...4c58a7d47.html

This incident last year was presented by protesters as a Fed Ex truck deliberately running over a protester. If you watch the video I think you’ll see there’s some or mitigating factors such as people jumping on the sideboard and flashing guns at the driver. Also many helpful protesters relieved the truck of its many packages while stepping on and over the man being dragged by the truck.

[bae]

I wonder what the correct response is, once the protestors begin attempting to open the door of your vehicle, or strike the glass to effect entry?

I'm pretty sure the answer involves a lot of paperwork.

[iris lilies]

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/22/98985...arm-protesters

This news article says the state of Oklahoma has put into place a law that relieves liability for those who escape a protest and in doing so injure people in the crowd. I can see where being surrounded by protesters would be a scary thing and you’d want to get your vehicle out of there. Reginald Denny anyone?

But I don’t understand how a law can overturn standard laws about manslaughter and or murder.

[Alan]

But I don’t understand how a law can overturn standard laws about manslaughter and or murder.

I don't think they do, but you'd never know that from the standard media refrain about beleaguered union members suffering at the hands of evil capitalists and 'scabs'.

[bae]

But I don’t understand how a law can overturn standard laws about manslaughter and or murder.

I don't think they do. Here in WA, as I mentioned above, use of force is allowed to the citizenry to escape from this sort of situation. Even deadly force if need be.

Probably committing felonies against other citizens in the streets isn't a good plan.

[jp1]

As always the devil will be in the details. Since Charlottesburg running over protestors one disagrees with seems to have become a thing. Perhaps it was a thing before but just didn't have media attention, I have no idea. But it will be unfortunate if these laws become get out of jail free cards in the way that in some states stand your ground means it's ok to stalk someone as they are walking down the street and cause a confrontation resulting in a situation where you feel the need to "stand your ground".

[bae]

But it will be unfortunate if these laws become get out of jail free cards in the way that in some states stand your ground means it's ok to stalk someone as they are walking down the street and cause a confrontation resulting in a situation where you feel the need to "stand your ground".

WA State has had, in essence, a "stand your ground" law for many decades, and the streets are not running red with the blood of innocents shot by ground-standers.

Perhaps other forces are at work.

[jp1]

WA State has had, in essence, a "stand your ground" law for many decades, and the streets are not running red with the blood of innocents shot by ground-standers.

Perhaps other forces are at work.

Or perhaps the laws and the court decisions are not the same as in other states. As I said, as with most things the devil is in the details. It may not be that there isn't an asshole like Zimmerman in Washington but simply that the assholes like Zimmerman who live there understand that they will be treated differently than they would in Florida.