Conavirus......

[Rogar]

I went into a typical larger non-retail outlet type of private business a couple of days ago and they had official government looking signs on doors saying, proof of vaccination requried. I only had a paper copy which they photo copied for what they said were possible audits. My few minutes looking into current laws didn't turn up much and it wasn't a big issue for me. The person I met with has Parkinsons and I wondered if it was a special precaution.

Forced vaccinations can take several forms and it seems like exclusion is one of them.

[frugal-one]

Sort of agree, as I do love the easy identification provided by the red MAGA hats, shirts, etc.

Yea, shows who to avoid. trump lost… get over it.

[frugal-one]

There has been no forced gubmnt vaccine requirement for simply being a citizen here.

If you want to partake of certain activities in certain situations, sure, a vaccine of some kind may be required for you.

I can’t imagine that the Supreme Court would back up our President in holding down citizens and injecting foreign substances into their bodies even if he has determined, in his infinite wisdom, that it is for their own good. I am grateful our constitution prevents such egregious overstep of our governmrnt.

You should have made that case when seat belts were mandated. The only people harmed then are/were those not wearing a seatbelt. Not getting vaccinated infiltrates/violates the rights of everyone because it does not just involve them.

[iris lilies]

You should have made that case when seat belts were mandated. The only people harmed then are/were those not wearing a seatbelt. Not getting vaccinated infiltrates/violates the rights of everyone because it does not just involve them.

Seat belt laws are not edicts issued from the White House. And therefore, they vary across states. States rights, ya know.

[bae]

You should have made that case when seat belts were mandated. The only people harmed then are/were those not wearing a seatbelt.

As someone who with some frequency has to deal with the gore and horror of auto crashes where people didn't wear seatbelts, I can testify that it does harm the first responders as well. And uses a fair bit of taxpayer resources - fire/ems, helicopters, regional trauma centers, that sort of thing.

It is also the case that if you are wearing a seatbelt, you can better retain control of your vehicle during vigorous maneuvering, which may allow you a chance to avoid an accident in the first place.

In my state, you can drive without a seatbelt all you want, as long as you don't do it on the public roads...

[Yppej]

Not getting vaccinated infiltrates/violates the rights of everyone because it does not just involve them.

Not getting vaccinated hurts:

1. One's self
2. Others who chose not to get vaccinated
3. People in such weak health, such as Colin Powell, that any number of viruses could have done them in

This is an insufficient basis to mandate vaccinations.

An anti-vaxxer at one of our sites now has covid. In the past he was talked into getting a flu shot for his child who had a bad reaction to it and landed up hospitalized. There are valid reasons why some people distrust vaccines.

[iris lilies]

Yea, shows who to avoid. trump lost… get over it.

Praise the Lord Jesus, we agree on something.

jp1? Ya listening?

[iris lilies]

As someone who with some frequency has to deal with the gore and horror of auto crashes where people didn't wear seatbelts, I can testify that it does harm the first responders as well. And uses a fair bit of taxpayer resources - fire/ems, helicopters, regional trauma centers, that sort of thing.

It is also the case that if you are wearing a seatbelt, you can better retain control of your vehicle during vigorous maneuvering, which may allow you a chance to avoid an accident in the first place.

In my state, you can drive without a seatbelt all you want, as long as you don't do it on the public roads...

For every practical real life situation you can come up with to limit someone’s rights, I can come up with even more!


In our democratic society there will always be a push-pull Between individual rights and society societal responsibilities. I think that’s fine, there’s no one right answer, but people had better be continuing to discuss it in the public Square or else we will all become little Orwellian automans subsumed in the will of Big Brother

[Alan]

Forced vaccinations can take several forms and it seems like exclusion is one of them.

I've always felt a little excluded because of some of my choices in life, do you think we could get the government to mandate everyone enjoy cheap cigars, Mountain Dew and Chili Cheese Fritos to help me feel a little less alone and enhance my self esteem?

[happystuff]

Yea, shows who to avoid. trump lost… get over it.

Wow. That reads unnecessarily nasty. I was simply responding with an example from the other side and it was meant more as a joke. Sorry you didn't get that.