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    One thing I suspect, if you'd have left it up to the government to develop vaccines within their institutions there would still be delays. I lost track of any initiatives the Universities had to develop one, but they all must have been substandard. Profit was probably part of the incentive to develop any vaccine at all. That pretty much leaves big pharma.

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    Decisions are being made based not on getting everyone vaccinated so we can drive covid into endemicity and cut down on all the variants, but on pharma profits. Boosters will not change the trajectory of the disease. Initial shots will. But instead of initial shots going out to everyone first we are seeing people who already have a decent level of protection get boosted because they live in rich countries that can pay pharma's high prices.

    Remember when we were told take any vaccine you can get? That included J&J at 75% efficacy. I got Moderna at 95% efficacy. Now my Moderna has maybe waned to 75%. I'm still good. People with 0% in the Third World are not.

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    Crazyiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Crazyiness.
    I agree. Absolutely crazy how we let big pharma prolong this pandemic. The government funded Warp Speed and could force them to share their formulas with drug makers in poor countries but the Feds who are in bed with the industry and its PIs refuse.

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    Both Cory booker and Liz Warren announced today that they have breakthrough cases. Thankfully both are fully vaxxed and boosted so they are having relatively mild cases. I didn’t know that warren’s older brother died of covid back in the first wave in the spring of 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Both Cory booker and Liz Warren announced today that they have breakthrough cases. Thankfully both are fully vaxxed and boosted so they are having relatively mild cases. I didn’t know that warren’s older brother died of covid back in the first wave in the spring of 2020.
    I am praying for them both; these breakthrough cases are alarming.

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    I saw Trump toeing the thankless middle ground, talking about the benefit of vaccines and stating he got a booster. The right booed him and the left will still not give him any credit.

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    I’m still hoping Trump will receive the credit for his role in the insurrection.

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    I don't mind giving Trump some credit for Warp Speed. But giving Trump some credit for coming out for boosters when the whole Trump movement is why there is so much opposition to the vaccine to begin with is what: better too little, too late, than never?

    I mean the whole game of people like Trump is to play both sides, for and against the vaccine etc. (and p.s. covid was never a threat to anyone to begin with so why are we vaxxing against this non-threat again?), slippery and impossible to pin down. But sure maybe some get vaccinated because of this, some have already died due to Trump and antivax propaganda.
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    If Fauci suddenly disappeared, I can't see any of the messaging changing. Our local health officials are on board with the common recommendations, as are the talking heads on TV that represent various agencies and authorities. I occasionally check in on the This Week in Virology that includes respected virology experts in academics. If Fauci were suddenly replaced, there would just be a new whipping boy. He's not the only respectable authority trying to help us out of this and many are not associated with the CDC, NIH, or who ever else might be on Bill Gates payroll.

    I'm trying to get past Trump, but do hope he has some karma payback coming.

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