Conavirus......

[iris lilies]

Maybe he didn't have it in the past 14 days, but he probably had it. As of November (pre-omicron) 94% of Americans had antibodies to covid-19 per the seroprevalence data from the CDC I've provided a link to below. Now it's probably 99.99%.

Go on your trip and enjoy it.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...seroprevalence

this seems to be an important study and I don’t know what to make of it. I just skimmed it and yeah, that’s a lot of the population that has Covid antibodies. One of the questions I have is what level of antibody do you need to avoid getting very sick? I don’t know.

But yeah Jeppy, that’s interesting information

[bae]

Except Yppej is misrepresenting the data. In particular take note of the population sampled.

Yppej routinely cherry picks things that they apparently don’t read or understand though, and uses them to advance their narrative.

[jp1]

My father is both vaccinated and boosted, so I am not worried about him getting covid because it would be asymptomatic or mild.

Additionally the doctor can wear an N95 mask and other protective gear as covid positive nurses are doing in short staffed hospitals.

Are you insane? Old man who has just had major surgery gets covid is not a situation any rational medical professional would be willing to cause. An anecdote. 84 year old friend (mother of one of my high school friends) with no other significant health issues, fully vaxxed and boosted, spent two weeks in the hospital due to covid, getting out about 3 weeks ago. Perhaps your father would be luckier. But perhaps not.

[Ultralight]

Sort of like a zombie apocalypse? And you plan to be the Omega Man? I suspect in the end pretty much all of us will be infected.

The Omega Man is one of my all-time favorite movies!

[bae]

I have been trained to not interact with patients, or even to show up to work, when I am ill, and that is not (usually) in a surgical setting, where the standards are higher. My mother, who quite literally wrote the book on operating room nursing practices, and had a 40 year career, also thinks sick staff have no place in the operating room, and was involved multiple times in disciplinary and legal actions against moronic surgeons who showed up inappropriately.

I question Yppej’s basic understanding of such things. Or something….

[iris lilies]

Except Yppej is misrepresenting the data. In particular take note of the population sampled.

Yppej routinely cherry picks things that they apparently don’t read or understand though, and uses them to advance their narrative.

I skimmed the entire thing. They are studying blood samples for presence of Covid antibodies. 135,000 blood samples were studied although inside the article they talk about more than 1 million. So I’m not sure how many were tested but I think the executive summary talks about 135,000. The samples came from all over the country. Better than 90+ of people in all age ranges had Covid antibodies in Nov. 2021.

That is what I get from the executive summary. What are you getting? Let go of your dislike of Jeppy for a minute Since that is irrelevant to interpretation of the data,and tell me what you are reading here.

In an aside, I didn’t know they could tell the difference between vaccine induced antibodies and disease induced antibodies.

[bae]

The population of the study was blood donors, not the general population…. There is another study from the same higher level page of the cdc site that examines the *broader* population, which yields a far lower rate…. You might imagine that the population of blood donors has some different characteristics than the entire population of the USA.

That is , “research” requires actually reading and understanding things, which Yeppy doesn’t bother with, it seems.

[iris lilies]

The population of the study was blood donors, not the general population…. There is another study from the same higher level page of the cdc site that examines the *broader* population, which yields a far lower rate…. You might imagine that the population of blood donors has some different characteristics than the entire population of the USA.

That is , “research” requires actually reading and understanding things, which Yeppy doesn’t bother with, it seems.

Yeah yeah yeah yeppy bad, got it. Yawn.

The study does say that the population of blood donors are different from the general population, a higher percentage likely vaccinated than general pop. But to put an estimated number on that percentage difference, they suggest 73% of their sample was vaccinated and to compare, the CDC estimate is 57% of the population. That’s a 15 point difference.

So let’s take that general overall 90+ number that have antibodies, let’s call it 93%, and subtract 15 points. That leaves us with this idea: At least 78% The general population has antibodies.

This is pretty high to me. This study clearly shows the percentage of the population that has antibodies, well the percentage of the blood donors anyway, is increasing.

Seems like a win to me.

[ApatheticNoMore]

Why is it a win? You can catch covid multiple times, maybe without variants, but definitely with variants which we have gotten (lots of people having covid does not mean they have had omicron unless it's recent). You might have some short term immunity. Boosters also seem like they may fade.

[bae]

Yeah yeah yeah yeppy bad, got it. Yawn.

The study does say that the population of blood donors are different from the general population, a higher percentage likely vaccinated than general pop. But to put an estimated number on that percentage difference, they suggest 73% of their sample was vaccinated and to compare, the CDC estimate is 57% of the population. That’s a 15 point difference.

So let’s take that general overall 90+ number that have antibodies, let’s call it 93%, and subtract 15 points. That leaves us with this idea: At least 78% The general population has antibodies.

This is pretty high to me. This study clearly shows the percentage of the population that has antibodies, well the percentage of the blood donors anyway, is increasing.

Seems like a win to me.

Or you could have read the other study, which I mentioned there is a parallel study/link for, which actually does the analysis you are trying to back-of-the-envelope your way into. A study that actually studies, well, the relevant population.