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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    As I said, Jeppy is misrepresenting the conclusions. Or didn’t read the whole thing.
    Then why don’t you explain it since I’m having a hard time with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Too bad The Journal of the American Medical Association wasn't good enough for you.
    That wasn’t a link about kids with liver disease.I can understand your confusion though. You throw it so many stupid conspiracy theories it must be hard to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    That wasn’t a link about kids with liver disease.I can understand your confusion though. You throw it so many stupid conspiracy theories it must be hard to keep up.
    If you dismissed my sources on the first topic, why would I take the time to provide you with sources on the second topic?

    You are incorrigible.

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    I didn’t dismiss your source I simply pointed out that your source didn’t address my question to you. I get it. You aren’t really a detail oriented person. I will lower my expectations going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Then why don’t you explain it since I’m having a hard time with it.
    From the Results section:

    “ All of the false-positive test results from these 2 workplaces were drawn from a single batch of Abbott’s Panbio COVID-19 Ag Rapid Test Device.”

    From the Discussion section:

    “ The cluster of false-positive results from 1 batch was likely the result of manufacturing issues rather than implementation. These results inform the discussion of whether rapid antigen tests will result in too many false-positives that could overwhelm PCR testing capacity in other settings.1,2 Also, the results demonstrate the importance of having a comprehensive data system to quickly identify potential issues. With the ability to identify batch issues within 24 hours, workers could return to work, problematic test batches could be discarded, and the public health authorities and manufacturer could be informed.”

    Jeppy is trying to convince us that this one research letter tells us that 42% of rapid test positives are false positives. This is simply not generally true. Jeppy picked out one result, ignored the authors’ discussion of the data issues and limitations, and engaged in sophistry. Or Jeppy simply did not understand what they read, for whatever reason.

    You cannot generalize to all rapid tests based on the results of two single workplaces using the same production batch of tests without digging a bit further. Especially when this result seems out of line…

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    Covid vaccinations can cause hepatitis:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9021033/

    Currently we have a hepatitis outbreak in vaccinated children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    From the Results section:

    “ All of the false-positive test results from these 2 workplaces were drawn from a single batch of Abbott’s Panbio COVID-19 Ag Rapid Test Device.”

    From the Discussion section:

    “ The cluster of false-positive results from 1 batch was likely the result of manufacturing issues rather than implementation. These results inform the discussion of whether rapid antigen tests will result in too many false-positives that could overwhelm PCR testing capacity in other settings.1,2 Also, the results demonstrate the importance of having a comprehensive data system to quickly identify potential issues. With the ability to identify batch issues within 24 hours, workers could return to work, problematic test batches could be discarded, and the public health authorities and manufacturer could be informed.”

    Jeppy is trying to convince us that this one research letter tells us that 42% of rapid test positives are false positives. This is simply not generally true. Jeppy picked out one result, ignored the authors’ discussion of the data issues and limitations, and engaged in sophistry. Or Jeppy simply did not understand what they read, for whatever reason.

    You cannot generalize to all rapid tests based on the results of two single workplaces using the same production batch of tests without digging a bit further. Especially when this result seems out of line…
    ok, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Covid vaccinations can cause hepatitis:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9021033/

    Currently we have a hepatitis outbreak in vaccinated children.
    No we don't.

    https://www.ksat.com/health/2022/04/...sely-at-cases/

    The UK data suggests it has nothing to do with COVID-19 or COVID vaccines.

    “Very few of the 100 or so children had received any kind of COVID vaccination, and fewer than 20% of them tested positive for COVID,” Barton explained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    No we don't.

    https://www.ksat.com/health/2022/04/...sely-at-cases/

    The UK data suggests it has nothing to do with COVID-19 or COVID vaccines.

    “Very few of the 100 or so children had received any kind of COVID vaccination, and fewer than 20% of them tested positive for COVID,” Barton explained.
    Clarification - it is not the children who are vaccinated, but their mothers, and they are breastfeeding:

    https://theirishsentinel.com/2022/05...nated-mothers/

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    The stupid, it burns.

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