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    Yppej
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    Alternative Medicine

    Have you opted out of the American medical system? Are there any alternative medical services or products you use?

    I am through trying to find an MD who will accommodate my issues with masks.

    Vision
    In another year when I run low on contacts I will need an eye exam - will deal with that then, possibly try out of state as my vision plan is national - they may less strict in that specialty in NH. It's been 4 years since my last specialty visit and I can still see so I think my central serous retinopathy healed itself, but to be safe I will continue watching my caffeine intake. I could also just wear glasses which I have. Or I could illegally buy contacts from another country that doesn't require a prescription.

    Dental
    Unsure if/when I will go to the dentist. It will be another four years until my dental insurance will pay for another new patient exam. The last dentist I went to no longer takes the insurance. It is a state not a national plan and to sit through a long new patient intake masked repulses me.


    Everything Else
    I will continue to carry both insurances in case of emergency. I pay $1 a week for dental and $20 per week for medical which will go up to $25 in February since it will be two years since I had a physical. Medical debt is the #1 cause of bankruptcy and I could be in a car accident and be transported unconscious in an ambulance to a hospital and be liable for all sorts of bills. But I do not plan to go to the doctor anymore.

    So I will now treat myself. I have some nuisance ailments I believe correlate to my weight, so my first focus will be on that. One iissue is an occasional twitch in my lower back when I walk especially on concrete floors that may be sciatica. If so it's likely weight related but if not maybe I can find a chiropractor which I believe insurance would cover. Chiropractors have been great at challenging medical orthodoxy on things like fluoridation in my state. I might find one maskfree in MA but if not possibly NH.

    It is liberating to be free of the system.

    I also plan to avoid all vaccines, prescription drugs, or anything else related to big pharma.

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    Yes, your phobia/principle/health risk or whatever it is about masks requires that you pay more for your insurance. Seems like a fair trade off to me.

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    OMFG!

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    Are you even overweight based on BMI? See I half expect this is just another thing you are obsessed with that has no basis in reality like fear of masks (BMI is not perfect but it's a pretty good rule of thumb).
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    I have also often found myself arguing with doctors a lot because they wanted me to get tests I felt were not necessary and had risks (e.g. radiation exposure). I will not miss them.

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    I hit the obese mark but with recent weight loss am down to overweight. I have 25 more pounds to lose to get to the normal range.

    The covid lockdowns and restrictions led me, like many others, to balloon up. Average covid weight gain in the US was 29 pounds.

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    There are more workarounds all the time: CBCs by mail, computerized eye exam apps, Cologuard, all kinds of monitors...If you're paranoid, or want to be, you have plenty of tools at your disposal.

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    As messed up as the American medical system might be, I don't see a lot of alternatives. My dentist no longer takes insurance, so I pay cash. It seems like there are some chain dental offices that could be cheaper or take insurance. They say good dental health maybe link to heart health. There are doctors out there who have non-traditional approaches like naturopathic. I fact check my doctors by comparing them to recommendations by the Mayo Clinic and a few others, with whom I have some degree of trust. I admit to not seeing an eye doctor for a few years, but have good vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    As messed up as the American medical system might be, I don't see a lot of alternatives. My dentist no longer takes insurance, so I pay cash. It seems like there are some chain dental offices that could be cheaper or take insurance. They say good dental health maybe link to heart health. There are doctors out there who have non-traditional approaches like naturopathic. I fact check my doctors by comparing them to recommendations by the Mayo Clinic and a few others, with whom I have some degree of trust. I admit to not seeing an eye doctor for a few years, but have good vision.
    We have always paid cash to the dentist and he gives 10% discount if you literally pay cash or check on the day of your appointment.

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    We also pay cash for the dentist, although DH had to get a full set of dentures and a hearing aid in one year, so we got a CareCredit card which is what doctors use for financing healthcare, and it's interest-free as long as you pay within 12 or 18 months. It's like a balloon payment. But it does help if you don't have thousands in cash to fork over.

    I don't go to the doctor much at all, (good genes--no chronic issues) and my healthcare costs are very low, so I'm fine with my Medicare + supplemental plan. No need to seek out alternative medical care at this point.
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