Why NOT to vote Republican

[LDAHL]

One thing I like about this list, and it has a few names on it that I pay attention to, is that the ones I know and read or listen to our quite a bit younger than I am.

i’ve always liked Jonah Goldberg, but I’ve stepped away from reading anything of his in recent years. I tried his podcast and that is not good because he is not a speaker, he is a writer. Yet, I recently heard him on an interactive podcast and in that scenario he is good in resenting his ideas and arguments.

I like him because I pretty much agree with his general political philosophy as an unreconstructed Reagan conservative. Suspicion of centralized government power. A belief that one’s best life should be pursued on an individual rather than a communal basis. Free speech absolutism. I suppose that’s why he calls his podcast “the remnant”.

[iris lilies]

Here is a real genius in Wisconson, now facing felony charges and losing her job.

https://www.fox6now.com/news/milwauk...d-ballot-fraud

I decided to link to a fox news website so story would be believable to Republicans. on the WAPO website there were lots of comments from active military explaining why they would vote in a state when they were not physically present, especially Navy. Apparently some Wisconsin election officials want to ban mail in military ballots. Stupid fools.

I don’t know why you think this story would be unbelievable to Republicans or anyone else.


So, this election official thinks she is combating potential voter fraud by —committing voter fraud. Way to go election official! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


I do always wonder though how duplicate ballots are resolved in any jurisdiction, be it Milwaukee or Hermann, Missouri. I don’t mean necessarily military ballots but any paper ballots that are completed and then sent into the election office. For instance. I can go around to more than one precinct and cast more than one provisional ballot on voting day.


How do they reconcile those ballots and identify the one true one that represents my vote?

I’ve asked DH this since he has been an election judge, but he doesn’t know. He knows that they are allowed to accept provisional ballots on voting day but they send them off downtown to the election board.

[littlebittybobby]

Okay----Hwere's what to do. Be pragmatic, and set on the fence till after the 'lection. Agree with the ideologues/ fanatics in the meantime. Think in terms of self-preservation, like any good norwegian. Yup.But yeah---in that littlebitty twown waaaay up north in the middle-o-nowhere where they have a non-profit theater to show Dizzny Moovees, what you do is get bumper stickers for BOTH candidates for sheriff & supervisor posts. Yup. But, don't put them on---wait till AFTER the results are in, then run out first thing & put the stickers of the winning candy dates on. May be your get-out-of-a tickkck card. Yup.

[frugal-one]

I’ll put it in simpler terms. If you cry wolf while at the same time feeding it tidbits, people will wonder how serious you are about the danger.

If you think supporting these dangerous people against more traditional Republican candidates is part of a brilliant game of five-dimensional chess, how stupid will it look if some of them win and publicly thank you for the help?

As Rogar said…. there are none more dangerous than the republicans. If you think there are any traditional republicans left you are more naive than I thought.

[iris lilies]

Hmmm.... poking around and trying to learn more about my Vermont candidates before I vote, I learned more about the candidate that seems to have started being Independent but wound up on the Republican ticket.

Here's his story: https://rebirthdemocracy.com/liams-story-1

I like the idea that he's really a crossover candidate. He isn't a cartoon of the two sides. I have decided that I am going to go against the favored Democratic candidate for Congress and vote for this guy.

Does it mean I'm not playing the game strategically, because every vote for a Republican congressman is a vote for the GOP to take over the House? Yes.

I’m not going to try to talk you out of that.

[iris lilies]

I cleared the cache several times, and tried different browsers, and am still just getting a like to the 48-page Party Rules, which say nothing about policy, just meeting procedures and business rules and such.

oh! Doh. I figured it out.

There is a 2016 party platform and that is the last platform created by the Republican party because they have to have their meeting every for four years to vote on a new platform. Covid stopped their convention in 2020 and and they were not able to convene to make a new platform.

The preamble to the 2016 platform talks about the cancellation of the 2020 convention.

The platform I read weeks ago when I looked up the official stance on abortion was that 2016 platform.

so, it is here:

https://prod-static.gop.com/media/Re...852.1667609369

[bae]

oh! Doh. I figured it out.

There is a 2016 party platform and that is the last platform created by the Republican party because they have to have their meeting every for four years to vote on a new platform. Covid stopped their convention in 2020 and and they were not able to convene to make a new platform.

That gives me the warm fuzzies about their ability to govern...

[bae]

As Rogar said…. there are none more dangerous than the republicans. If you think there are any traditional republicans left you are more naive than thought

There are plenty of traditional republicans left. We just don't tend to support the current GOP. There is really no place for us in today's politics.

[frugal-one]

There are plenty of traditional republicans left. We just don't tend to support the current GOP. There is really no place for us in today's politics.

There it is!

[JaneV2.0]

You can still see a lot of them on MSNBC--Nicolle Wallace, Mona Charen, Michael Steele, Rick Wilson, Olivia Troye, and others. I don't always agree with them, but they are reasonable, honest-seeming people.