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    Ted Cruz's teenage daughter came out as bi earlier this year. And today she attempted suicide. While we don't know at this point what drove her to do that the reality is that statistically LGBTQ youth are significantly more likely to attempt suicide than their straight counterparts. I hope that she finds the support and love that she, and all LGBTQ youth, need to get through what is a difficult time in most LGBTQ people's lives. It might also help her and all the other LGBTQ teens out there if republicans stopped demonizing LGBTQ people in general...

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    Jp1, I agree so much with you on this one. These controversial lawmakers have families and they make their life anything but normal.

    We were in a chipotle once in Northern Washington DC area. Suddenly the secret service came in, checked the restrooms and walked among the diners. They stationed themselves around the restaurant and Obama's teen daughter came in. She was with a group of friends and they were acting like teenagers having fun.
    Can you imagine Barron Trump doing that?

    The polarizing, demonizing speech of people like Ted Cruz, Trump, and Mark Meadows must be very hard on their families. Especially on teens who have so much societal pressure on them.

    I don't like Cruz and I feel so awful for that poor you girl trying to navigate normal teenager stuff with a father like hers.

    But I guess the midterms showed people are tired of Gay, Black, non Christians, even woman who medically need an abortion being demonized. The "Trump is just being Trump" excuse to dismiss uncivility, meanness and hate of segments of our citizens has been rejected across the country. With inflation and the unpopularity of Biden it should have been a red wave. Start treating all human beings like they are equal and valued members of our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    Jp1, I agree so much with you on this one. These controversial lawmakers have families and they make their life anything but normal.

    We were in a chipotle once in Northern Washington DC area. Suddenly the secret service came in, checked the restrooms and walked among the diners. They stationed themselves around the restaurant and Obama's teen daughter came in. She was with a group of friends and they were acting like teenagers having fun.
    Can you imagine Barron Trump doing that?

    The polarizing, demonizing speech of people like Ted Cruz, Trump, and Mark Meadows must be very hard on their families. Especially on teens who have so much societal pressure on them.

    I don't like Cruz and I feel so awful for that poor you girl trying to navigate normal teenager stuff with a father like hers.

    But I guess the midterms showed people are tired of Gay, Black, non Christians, even woman who medically need an abortion being demonized. The "Trump is just being Trump" excuse to dismiss uncivility, meanness and hate of segments of our citizens has been rejected across the country. With inflation and the unpopularity of Biden it should have been a red wave. Start treating all human beings like they are equal and valued members of our society.
    Perhaps the voters are tired of everyone being demonized, and using the personal problems of a 14 year old girl to beat your favorite hobby horse, the evil mean Republicans, is one kind of tiresome trope.

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    Fortunately, the Respect for Marriage act passed even though most of the evil mean Republicans voted against it. Would love to hear their reasoning. They'd probably say--with straight faces--that civil rights should be left up to the states. Missed your chance to be a mensch, Lindsey. I was pleasantly surprised to see Senator Romney voted in favor.

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    It seems there are so many more proclaimed bi or trans teens these days. Recently found out that my 13yo male nephew now identifies as she when previously he was they. I remain accepting of any person's gender identity but nevertheless confused...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkytoe View Post
    It seems there are so many more proclaimed bi or trans teens these days. Recently found out that my 13yo male nephew now identifies as she when previously he was they. I remain accepting of any person's gender identity but nevertheless confused...
    According to older, wiser people who have transitioned--like Buck Angel--young people should think and think again before taking any irreparable steps. Even chemical ones.

    At least proclaiming yourself bi isn't immutable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    According to older, wiser people who have transitioned--like Buck Angel--young people should think and think again before taking any irreparable steps. Even chemical ones.

    At least proclaiming yourself bi isn't immutable.
    Buck is certainly making the social media rounds these days telling tales of caution about medicalized transition and extreme surgeries too early.

    His is considered hate speech, however. Which is one reason why the accusation of “hate speech “ lobbed at me doesn’t have much meaning to me.
    Same with my girl Blair White, canceled on Youtube (technically, “ demonitized”) for her truth telling about de transitioning too early.

    The Number of detransitioners on YouTube is high, but I know that the answer to that kind of hate speech is well, that’s a tiny percentage of transitioners and besides they have been pressured to detransition.

    Who knows maybe so. My current favorite De-transitionor is Daisy Chadra who said she transitioned to male because she didn’t like the traditional roles women were supposed to take on. After living just a few years as a man, she has since transitioned back to being a young woman. This was not until after she cut off her breasts. But now she’s the mother of a baby that she produced in her own womb, and she has long blonde curls and a male partner, and is talking on YouTube about how she’s attracted to the idea of stay at home mom and wife.

    You can’t make this shit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Fortunately, the Respect for Marriage act passed even though most of the evil mean Republicans voted against it. Would love to hear their reasoning. They'd probably say--with straight faces--that civil rights should be left up to the states. Missed your chance to be a mensch, Lindsey. I was pleasantly surprised to see Senator Romney voted in favor.
    In the evil mean Republican circles I move in, the main objection I hear is that the bill provides insufficient protections for individuals who don’t want to provide services or support.

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    Some doctors and other scientists with questions about COVID vaccines are tiptoeing out of the closet now, too. I'm not sure how/when valid concerns became hate speech.

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