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    So apparently that "free speech absolutist" thing isn't working so well for Musk. In the past week he's tried banning any journalist that says mean things about him and today, banning anyone who even mentions any other social media platform in a tweet. If he still had some lawyers on staff they might have pointed out that that second one is a blatant violation of the EU's new Digital Services Act.

    I suppose the next step will be Tesla going around and slashing the tires of Nissan Leafs, Chevy Bolts and all the other electric vehicles out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    So apparently that "free speech absolutist" thing isn't working so well for Musk. In the past week he's tried banning any journalist that says mean things about him and today, banning anyone who even mentions any other social media platform in a tweet. If he still had some lawyers on staff they might have pointed out that that second one is a blatant violation of the EU's new Digital Services Act.

    I suppose the next step will be Tesla going around and slashing the tires of Nissan Leafs, Chevy Bolts and all the other electric vehicles out there.
    I think this is the least important news coming out about Twitter of recent days.

    But sticking to your story jp, I thought Elon banned all those journalists for relentlessly promoting his physical whereabouts and that of his family. That seems over the top behavior to me. I guess YE had to be deplatformed on Twitter, that is such a lot of crazy going on… I’m not sure about that one tho.

    Unfortunately I think Elon Musk is learning there really are limits to free-speech When participants do not wish to play nice.We have had to learn that here on this site even though it’s very open. Certainly it is far more open than Mr. money mustache which I think of as being younger people, more liberal, should be tolerant.

    What seems to be shaking out of recent years is the authoritarian speech clamping nature of the liberal left.
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    If you only use Twitter to follow Major League Baseball and your local news and traffic, you hardly notice any difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I think this is the least important news coming out about Twitter of recent days.

    But sticking to your story jp, I thought Elon banned all those journalists for relentlessly promoting his physical whereabouts and that of his family. That seems over the top behavior to me. I guess YE had to be deplatformed as well on Twitter, that is such a lot of crazy going on… I’m not sure about that one.
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    No. Several of those journalists had not posted anything about his jet. they had simply written articles critical of Musk.

    I think Elon is about to learn the lesson that ‘if you aren’t paying for the product you are the product’. Just from a very different perspective than most people.

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    I can see why you didn’t think this was such a big deal Iris. It’s reasonable that people would be more concerned with his call to prosecute the nation’s top public health official for some undisclosed reason. Authoritarianism from those like Musk on the fringey right just keeps creeping along.

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    So, is this the end of that whole stochastic terrorism thing the left has been going on about recently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KayLR View Post
    If you only use Twitter to follow Major League Baseball and your local news and traffic, you hardly notice any difference.
    As long as they don’t commit the unforgivable sin of also mentioning their accounts on Facebook or Instagram or anywhere else that will likely continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    No. Several of those journalists had not posted anything about his jet. they had simply written articles critical of Musk.

    I think Elon is about to learn the lesson that ‘if you aren’t paying for the product you are the product’. Just from a very different perspective than most people.
    The articles I’m reading say that journalists violated Twitter’s terms of service by promoting the location of Musk and others. Doxing, not allowed.


    here is one:
    https://www.npr.org/2022/12/15/11432...-elon-musk-jet

    https://mb.com.ph/2022/12/19/musk-re...f-journalists/

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    The articles I’m reading say that journalists violated Twitter’s terms of service by promoting the location of Musk and others. Doxing, not allowed.


    here is one:
    https://www.npr.org/2022/12/15/11432...-elon-musk-jet

    https://mb.com.ph/2022/12/19/musk-re...f-journalists/
    Here's a list of everyone taken down and the presumed reasons. Feel free to find the tweets where they supposedly posted his location. (hint - several of them didn't)

    Aaron Rupar: Substack author and popular Twitter presence whose account was taken down for reasons unknown.

    Drew Harwell: Washington Post technology reporter. Reason unknown.

    Ryan Mac: New York Times technology reporter. Recently posted concerning the ElonJet story.

    Donie O’Sullivan: CNN reporter. Last post was a story about Elon’s claim that a “crazy stalker” had followed a car in which his son was a passenger.

    Matt Binder: Mashable reporter. Final post was noting O’Sullivan’s suspension.

    Tony Webster: independent journalist.

    Micah Lee: Intercept reporter.

    Steve Herman: Voice of America reporter.

    Keith Olbermann: former MSNBC host and sports journalist. Last post was retweeting those of suspended journalists.

    And the original article where that list came from.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...s-from-Twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    As long as they don’t commit the unforgivable sin of also mentioning their accounts on Facebook or Instagram or anywhere else that will likely continue.
    I believe you're talking about those who use Twitter to promote other sites. We have a rule about that here too which I enforce, especially once our regular members start reporting those posts. Do you think it's wrong?
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