LGBT rights in the USA today...

[Tybee]

Thank you for pointing out this was the Patmos Library, IL. I definitely had the wrong area. Nowhere near Jackson. It's near Holland, where Hope College is.
That makes the story even weirder. This is not a rural outclave, although there are mostly fruit farmers there for industry. It's small town ville. But in a pretty blue part of the state. Not far from Saugatuck, coastal vacation areas.

and yes, if 300000 is the budget for the town, how much of that went for the library? And is that why the library got shut down, not the threatened books.

I was way off on location, sorry, everyone.

It is quite near Hudsonville Creamery, which makes the best ice cream in Michigan:

https://www.hudsonvilleicecream.com/our-story/

[iris lilies]

Thank you for pointing out this was the Patmos Library, IL. I definitely had the wrong area. Nowhere near Jackson. It's near Holland, where Hope College is.
That makes the story even weirder. This is not a rural outclave, although there are mostly fruit farmers there for industry. It's small town ville. But in a pretty blue part of the state. Not far from Saugatuck, coastal vacation areas.

and yes, if 300000 is the budget for the town, how much of that went for the library? And is that why the library got shut down, not the threatened books.

I was way off on location, sorry, everyone.

It is quite near Hudsonville Creamery, which makes the best ice cream in Michigan:

https://www.hudsonvilleicecream.com/our-story/

No the budget of around $300,000 is for the library.

Holland is Uber conservative, is it not? All of those Dutch people. (I say this because my brother and cousin went to Central College in Pella, Iowa, another Dutch-conservative stronghold.)

[Tybee]

No the budget of around $300,000 is for the library.

Holland is Uber conservative, is it not? All of those Dutch people. (I say this because my brother and cousin went to Central College in Pellia, Iowa, another Dutch-conservative stronghold.)

I don't know, my husband went to Hope, and while it's Calvinist, it doesn't seem like it's in the 19th century.
Thanks for the correction on the budget. I wonder what our local library budget is? Stephen King lives in town and he is a massive contributor, so it's a really nice small library.

[iris lilies]

I don't know, my husband went to Hope, and while it's Calvinist, it doesn't seem like it's in the 19th century.
Thanks for the correction on the budget. I wonder what our local library budget is? Stephen King lives in town and he is a massive contributor, so it's a really nice small library.

i’m looking into this Patmos library thing and I have to say, it looks like a nice quality library for a little town.

It’s not one of those that seem to be teetering on the edge, put together in someone’s spare crumbling building, and held together with book donations and volunteers. It actually does seem to be a professional operation so this sudden lack of funding is not good, not good at all.

[ApatheticNoMore]

It's not unusual for library tax support to need to be reaffirmed, that's the type of thing that tends to pass by 80% or more here though, noone agrees on almost anything as much as that.

[iris lilies]

Apparently it isn't over to republicans. And in this case it's not even drag queen story hour it's LGBTQ books that are oogy boogy scary to republican shitbags. but yeah, give up since you're a retired old lady who just doesn't give a shit about anyone else any more...

But the story is drag queen headline in Norwich England as the photo with this story and caption so that’s all I read And you know my position on drag queen story hours, I think they are stupid, lame, and any more they seem deserving of the “groomer” label. This photo and caption is stupid to use with a story about book challenges in small town Michigan. I guess this speaks to the quality of journalism at Daileykos. But anyway –

The “ graphic novel memoir” book under discussion, Gender Queer, may not be any different then another well-known graphic novel memoir called Fun Home: a family tragicomic challenged a lot this year.

I love Fun Home. Some years ago it was turned into a play. It’s about a young girl who is gay who lives in a household she presents as dysfunctional. Her father is a teacher but he also runs the family’s funeral home business. He is gay and in the closet. Every cent of the family’s money goes to decorate their huge Victorian house according to the father‘s rarefied taste. There is not a happy ending.

I guess this was targeted at teens, I don’t really remember, but it was really adult themes. I do remember that when I went to the play I saw a mom hauling in her son who was about 8 to 10 years old and I thought that was inappropriate and I wondered if she really understood that this was not a production for children.

[iris lilies]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dkqP6OPymqM

Watch Blair’s YouTube video from minute 2:15 until 3:15 to get a full view of the latest “Family Friendly” drag queen show, coming to a tax supported school or library near you. If you think that’s an exaggeration then please, for the love of God, tell me why.

But you have to watch the video, just one minute of it, before you comment.

I’ve said before that I might take my teenager to a show like this if the kid was interested in it because I’m kind of raunchy so my 15–16 -17-year-old – would be old enough for that depending on the kid of course. But the small children shown in this video and interviewed from the stage? Umm??? Do these parents have any brains? I mean what the actual FK?!!

Blair says about this debacle “ Taking kids to a drag show to help them learn tolerance about LGBTQ people is like taking them to a strip club to learn respect for women.”

I consider my tolerance pretty high for this drag show sort of thing but yet apparently I’m just a hater. I am a Republican voting hater, not keen on a typical drag show being promoted for children since it seems rather groomerish to me.

[iris lilies]

I listened to David Sedaris on Bari Weis’ podcast today and he let loose with a few gems but of course David is an OLDE and might even be a hater.

He said he came out as straight some time ago because he doesn’t like the term “queer” and he’s unhappy with the way his sexual orientation, homosexual, keeps getting relabeled. He just doesn’t like it and he said the “straight”:term never changes so that’s what he is, ha ha.

He had a few things to say about NPR‘s new super woke programming and how tiresome it is. He said he worries more about the parents of trans kids than the kids themselves because they seem so out of touch with reality.

But again, David is OLDE so we can discount what this cleverly wise man who sleeps with men (inside joke, you had to listen to the podcast ) has to say about our society.

[JaneV2.0]

I suppose drag queen story hour is silly (who really cares?), but I can't see it as "grooming," unless you mean in the sense of "Careful grooming is important--glue your lashes on carefully, check to see that your wig is on straight, and at all costs, avoid the dreaded five o'clock shadow!"

[iris lilies]

I suppose drag queen story hour is silly (who really cares?), but I can't see it as "grooming," unless you mean in the sense of "Careful grooming is important--glue your lashes on carefully, check to see that your wig is on straight, and at all costs, avoid the dreaded five o'clock shadow!"

no, I mean “grooming” as in “welcome to our great/wondfeul/sexy/fun/outrageous lifestyle. Pull up a chair, join in the fun!”