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    If you only stay home when your test is positive but otherwise go around spreading flu, RSV, strep A, etc you are the real a-hole for thinking only one illness matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cx3 View Post
    Using the CDC's own data; Sep21 covid deaths 77% among unvaxed, 23% vaxed. By Aug 22 deaths 42% unvaxed, 58% vaxed to fully vaxed.. Anyone see a pattern here?

    Also unrelated to CDC, 2020 29 European soccer players collapsed on field from a cardiac issues. 2021 and 2022 1598 players collapsed on field from cardiac issues, over 1100 deaths. What could possibly have changed from 2020 to 2021, any guesses?
    Any Monday Night Football fans here?
    I'm sure the Ministry of Truth fact checkers are on the case.
    My gosh people, how can anyone defend this great human experimental disaster at this point?

    I have just gotten over covid. Thank God I was vaccinated! I’m sure it saved me! There are many unvaxxed people who are now underground because of either stupidly or misinformation.

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    Child with covid is still home. Was supposed to go back to work today, but was sounding so horrible and still not feeling even 80% better, is taking today and maybe even tomorrow off. Work gives 5 days regardless of retest results or active symptoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cx3 View Post
    Using the CDC's own data; Sep21 covid deaths 77% among unvaxed, 23% vaxed. By Aug 22 deaths 42% unvaxed, 58% vaxed to fully vaxed.. Anyone see a pattern here?

    Also unrelated to CDC, 2020 29 European soccer players collapsed on field from a cardiac issues. 2021 and 2022 1598 players collapsed on field from cardiac issues, over 1100 deaths. What could possibly have changed from 2020 to 2021, any guesses?
    Any Monday Night Football fans here?
    I'm sure the Ministry of Truth fact checkers are on the case.
    My gosh people, how can anyone defend this great human experimental disaster at this point?
    I don't know about the ministry of truth, but politifact is on the case.

    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...es-covid-19-v/

    It seems like someone here mentioned that the government cause of death figures and government in general can't be trusted, so I'm not sure why you should trust your CDC data either.

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    Using the CDC's own data; Sep21 covid deaths 77% among unvaxed, 23% vaxed. By Aug 22 deaths 42% unvaxed, 58% vaxed to fully vaxed.. Anyone see a pattern here?
    the thing is most people in the u.s. have had at least one and often at least 2-3 vaccinations. So of course there are going to be more deaths among the vaxed, there are more vaxed people. Let's say more vaxed people are dying in auto accidents, but that's just because more people are vaxed, so the liklihood of someone dying in an auto-accident having had the vax is greater than them not having had it. I am leaving aside that those more likely to be vaxed are probably those most vulnerable to covid, because vaccination is pretty widespread across the board, but vaccination is higher among those 65 and up.

    Also unrelated to CDC, 2020 29 European soccer players collapsed on field from a cardiac issues. 2021 and 2022 1598 players collapsed on field from cardiac issues, over 1100 deaths. What could possibly have changed from 2020 to 2021, any guesses?
    I don't know if it's happening, truthfully I mostly hear anecdotes about sudden death, and I can't conclude much from them, but Rogar already posted on this. But also what has changed is covid itself. Isn't that a good guess that it would be long term complications from having had covid?
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    There are a lot of conflicting figures on covid deaths and sicknesses and there are people who play a fast and furious game with numbers. I personally have a reasonable amount of faith that the government is acting in our best interest and it least in larger issues thy are not hiding things, and hiding things like significant risk from vaccination falls into the category of fringe conspiracies. Having lived through the Nixon and Trump years, I can understand distrust of politics but I have a little more faith in medical science.

    Those who distrust the government health agencies can usually go to source articles or can reference academic experts such as This Week in Virology or compare with other countries. There are more than one or a several reliable sources that tend to generally agree with the CDC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cx3 View Post
    Using the CDC's own data; Sep21 covid deaths 77% among unvaxed, 23% vaxed. By Aug 22 deaths 42% unvaxed, 58% vaxed to fully vaxed.. Anyone see a pattern here?
    I see a consistent pattern of people without a basic grasp of statistics and simple algebra running into the weeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cx3 View Post
    jp1 we may have to agree to disagree on that last sentence.
    Haha! Fair enough. I may be an asshole but I'm not the kind of asshole who would go out in public if I knew I had a highly infectious disease that kills an average of 400 frail Americans every day. I'd probably also stay home if I had the flu even though it's a third as deadly and a lot less contagious, mainly because the few times in my adult life that I've had it I was thoroughly miserable.

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    I have always thought people who go to work sick were assholes and with such a sense of entitlement. They think they are so important that not taking off some sick days is worth getting potentially several other people in the office who might take off sick days sick (that would be me because I tend to be just miserable and pretty worthless for anything when sick). Yea buddy you and your few days work you might miss, are just that much more important than everyone else.

    I never thought of masks to protect myself when dealing with such assholes though. Now I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    I see a consistent pattern of people without a basic grasp of statistics and simple algebra running into the weeds.
    Tufts University, a science institution, has just stopped mandating covid-19 booster shots for their students. These people have a good grasp of advanced statistics and other branches of mathematics.

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