Why NOT to vote Republican

[iris lilies]

Come now...

Is that not happening in bae worldview?

[iris lilies]

I love anyone for who they are and how they choose to identify themselves. However, I don't love laws that favor the biology of males over the biology of females. I do not think MTF trans people should participate in female sports. Why? Because their biology makes them better suited for certain physical skills. Because someone identifies as a female doesn't mean they are in every sense of the word. If this sounds like I'm betraying my progressive leftist roots, that's OK. Derrick Jensen, the environmentalist and culture philosopher, has pretty much thrown his career and credibility into the toilet because of his opinions on this, which makes him "transphobic" in the minds of some, but I think that common sense has to carry through all the implications for accommodating multiple gender scenarios--both biological and psychological--into account fairly.

There is a podcast I heard some months ago, maybe it was an NPR piece, that tried mightily to show male physiques do not really impact success at all sports anyway, but you had to really get into the weeds and lots of detail to follow it. And of course there is the real problem of hormone testing in sports because some women have super high levels of testosterone and they test out of their range and are blocked from participating. So it’s not a slam dunk by any means.

If I were Derrick Jensen, I’d stay away from the topic because it is very black and white, in the eyes of most people.

I think it is hilarious that politically super righty evangelicals who wouldn’t let their kids read Harry Potter books are aligned with super lefty trans activists who wont read Harry Potter books.

[catherine]

If I were Derrick Jensen, I’d stay away from the topic because it is very black and white, in the eyes of most people.

Yeah, I think he's burned that bridge. He sides with feminists on many issues, and this becomes a feminist agenda for some. Women have fought SO hard to claim their power in different sectors of society, that infiltration by people who were male and are now identified as female can be felt to be usurpation and a theft of rights hard won.

[JaneV2.0]

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I think it is hilarious that politically super righty evangelicals who wouldn’t let their kids read Harry Potter books are aligned with super lefty trans activists who wont read Harry Potter books.

Yeah--JK Rowling is fighting a lonely battle.

[bae]

Is that not happening in bae worldview?

You said "I think a real life problem is that “alphabet people” I.e. specifically mtf trans persons infiltrate women’s spaces. LiKe prisons."

- How many Trans people are there in the USA?
- How many of them "infiltrate women's spaces, like prisons"?
- What happens when they do?

Be specific.

I find it interesting that you choose to focus on this sort of outlandish outlier behaviour as a "real life problem", rather than the real "real life problems" of violence directed at trans people, barriers being constructed to restrict their ability to access medical care, and so on.

[iris lilies]

You said "I think a real life problem is that “alphabet people” I.e. specifically mtf trans persons infiltrate women’s spaces. LiKe prisons."

- How many Trans people are there in the USA?
- How many of them "infiltrate women's spaces, like prisons"?
- What happens when they do?

Be specific.

I find it interesting that you choose to focus on this sort of outlandish outlier behaviour as a "real life problem", rather than the real "real life problems" of violence directed at trans people, barriers being constructed to restrict their ability to access medical care, and so on.

How many trans people or are there in the USA? Who knows because how do you define “trans? “I can think of several working definitions, but no one will agree to them.

How many of them infiltrate women’s spaces like prisons? We certainly hear about the high profile cases, and when they do infiltrate women’s sports, for instance, they often win. When they infiltrate women’s prisons, they make women pregnant. There’s not a lot of that —yet— tho this is just the beginning. I’m less concerned about the actions of trans people themselves than I am about society’s inability to exercise common sense and tell Leah Thomas “no you cannot swim on the girls team.”

As for your concern of “ barriers being constructed to restrict ability to access medical care “ I wonder what you think about the NHS stopping treatment of minors with hormone blockers? The NHS is now only prescribing hormone blockers in a research setting in controlled circumstances where they can closely monitor patients and presumably measure long term effects.

[iris lilies]

Yeah--JK Rowling is fighting a lonely battle.

No actually J. K. Rowling has many compatriots, and the Brits are ahead of the United States in the game.

[JaneV2.0]

No actually J. K. Rowling has many compatriots, and the Brits are ahead of the United States in the game.

I'm glad to hear that. I really don't have a solid opinion in this matter, but I support her right to opine.

[LDAHL]

I see that the day after the President pronounced “There is no there there” (No doubt Gertrude Stein is grimacing in the Great Beyond) the FBI found a fourth batch of mislaid secrets at one of his houses.

This is almost as fun as watching Bill Clinton trying to redefine “sex”.

[jp1]

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