President Perry

[Zigzagman]

So this is how liberals engage in pubic policy discussions? I use to find it numerous reading post from Peggy, loose, and the dope head. But now it's getting old, I guess when you have to defend a failed president, all you can do smear. I think I'll join Bae.

Have a nice life in your liberal fantasy land.

Sorry the photo offended you, dmc. I thought it was funny at the time. I hope not enough for you to pack your bags. It was just a 60 year old acting like 6 in a moment of weakness. I enjoy your posts.

The Dope Head

[mtnlaurel]

Oh come on guys -- don't anyone go anywhere -- we need everyone here to stick up for their points of view.
At least I know on this board everyone is real person and not a troll.
And at the end of the day our own individual interpretations of simplicity unite us.

[Alan]

Ziggy, I always enjoy your sense of humor and hate to think you have to tone yourself down to stay within community guidelines, but I gotta tell ya bud, that doctored photo was funny by itself, but the reference to Michelle Bachmann was a little misogynistic, don't you think?

Otherwise, keep up the good work showing the innate differences between liberals and conservatives, even if the evidence disappears before everyone has a chance to enjoy it. I appreciate your efforts more than you know.

[Zigzagman]

Ziggy, I always enjoy your sense of humor and hate to think you have to tone yourself down to stay within community guidelines, but I gotta tell ya bud, that doctored photo was funny by itself, but the reference to Michelle Bachmann was a little misogynistic, don't you think?

Otherwise, keep up the good work showing the innate differences between liberals and conservatives, even if the evidence disappears before everyone has a chance to enjoy it. I appreciate your efforts more than you know.

Thanks Alan for the support. I will admit that it was over the top but it was on a Friday night, I was feeling good and I thought it was really funny in my own demented sort of way. Of course waking up today it appeared not so funny to many. Seriously I guess I just don't take things like that seriously but maybe should. I make no bones about my political leanings but would never intentionally try and offend anyone.

I also love to hear from the other side - it does help to keep me balanced because I would probably be a extremist otherwise FYI - it does make me feel bad to think I offended anyone.

Peace

[loosechickens]

"So this is how liberals engage in pubic policy discussions? I use to find it numerous reading post from Peggy, loose, and the dope head. But now it's getting old, I guess when you have to defend a failed president, all you can do smear. I think I'll join Bae.

Have a nice life in your liberal fantasy land." (dmc)
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Well, I'm sorry....I can't comment on Zig's cartoon, because it was deleted before I came onto the thread.....but not to worry, dmc......what's more likely, if you are like some others who have made dramatic exits, you'll still be here, every day, gobbling up all our words of wisdom, just withholding your own "pearls", reluctant to cast them out before swine........

I don't think anyone really needs, ever, to flounce off in a huff about what some poster says or posts on an internet forum. Such things say much more about the thin skin and easily bruised egos of the leavees, to me, but........

Personally, I think we need ALL the voices, whatever their viewpoints, but that's just my own viewpoint as a member....nothing "official".

Please yourself......boy, that must have been QUITE a cartoon, Zig.......clearly it hit a nerve.....sorry I missed it. It didn't portray Governor Perry as a witchdoctor in a grass skirt, with a bone through his nose, did it? Or as a big, thicklipped baboon? Because if it had done that, probably none of the conservatives would have been offended, because they would have known, "it was just meant as a joke", etc.......

[Alan]

"So this is how liberals engage in pubic policy discussions? I use to find it numerous reading post from Peggy, loose, and the dope head. But now it's getting old, I guess when you have to defend a failed president, all you can do smear. I think I'll join Bae.

Have a nice life in your liberal fantasy land." (dmc)
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Well, I'm sorry....I can't comment on Zig's cartoon, because it was deleted before I came onto the thread.....but not to worry, dmc......what's more likely, if you are like some others who have made dramatic exits, you'll still be here, every day, gobbling up all our words of wisdom, just withholding your own "pearls", reluctant to cast them out before swine........

I don't think anyone really needs, ever, to flounce off in a huff about what some poster says or posts on an internet forum. Such things say much more about the thin skin and easily bruised egos of the leavees, to me, but........

Personally, I think we need ALL the voices, whatever their viewpoints, but that's just my own viewpoint as a member....nothing "official".

Please yourself......boy, that must have been QUITE a cartoon, Zig.......clearly it hit a nerve.....sorry I missed it. It didn't portray Governor Perry as a witchdoctor in a grass skirt, with a bone through his nose, did it? Or as a big, thicklipped baboon? Because if it had done that, probably none of the conservatives would have been offended, because they would have known, "it was just meant as a joke", etc.......

I don't think you've ever seen anything like that here have you?

And as for those others who have possibly left in a huff, do you think that it had anything to do with how they were treated after being subjected to angry rant's just before having their posting privileges suspended by the same "official" member doing the ranting? And what is "dramatic" about not posting again after being subjected to such a thing? It seems to me that people can often-times choose to stop participating for very valid reasons, which shouldn't be mocked or ridiculed by others involved.

[loosechickens]

Ah, Alan.....you are so dependably "kneejerky".

Virtually every member on these forums who has had a hissy fit and made dramatic announcements of their departure, returns, often under another name, sometimes never really leaves, but just lurks and reads everything, but refuses to participate. You know well how addictive these forums are. When you were undergoing banishment, you spent tremendous energy trying to get registered on the forums under dozens of identities, etc. None of us can STAND to not be here. There is nothing mocking or ridiculing about noting that fact. It's just the way it is.

Few leave for any other reasons than real life considerations, change in lifestyle, etc. The ones who make the dramatic announcements about leaving because of something someone said, or because they don't feel they were treated with enough reverence almost always return, never leave, or just become lurkers. that's a statement of fact, based on lots of past experience. Who was it that said "you can learn a lot just by watching"?

I'm the first one to realize that, as nearly daily I swear to myself to just come on here, do my necessary moderator duties, screen new registrations, deal with spammers, etc., and then GET OFF THE DARN INTERNET.....yet, every day, here I am....engaged in useless debate with you, hahahahaha.

At least weekly, I determine that these forums just take up too much time, and I really need to resign as moderator, so I don't feel I have to come here every day, yet, I never do, and every day......here I am.

We've gone over this ad infinitum, yet you persist in saying such things as " just before having their posting privileges suspended by the same "official" member......", although you know well that ALL moderating decisions involving any discipline of a member, suspension of privileges, etc., are made by consensus, by the entire board of moderators, after lengthy discussion, often communication with the person facing suspension of privileges, etc., and because of clear violations of forum guidelines.

Even if I WANTED to, I have no power to make ANY unilateral decisions on this board, and you know it. How many other things do you know are completely untrue that you continue to put forward? Honestly, it makes me question your veracity on other subjects, since I know this particular one is false and you know it is false. How far into the weeds of "truthiness" are you willing to go to make a point? One that you know to be untrue? One wonders.

Well, enough of this..........I'm off to Camping World to do my part to stimulate the economy by buying a new 12 volt fan because our old one has bitten the dust and manages to resist even the intercession of my sweetie's screwdriver to continue rotating.........

[iris lily]

"...It didn't portray Governor Perry as a witchdoctor in a grass skirt, with a bone through his nose, did it? Or as a big, thicklipped baboon? Because if it had done that, probably none of the conservatives would have been offended, because they would have known, "it was just meant as a joke", etc.......

I call B.S.

[Alan]

....We've gone over this ad infinitum, yet you persist in saying such things as " just before having their posting privileges suspended by the same "official" member......", although you know well that ALL moderating decisions involving any discipline of a member, suspension of privileges, etc., are made by consensus, by the entire board of moderators, after lengthy discussion, often communication with the person facing suspension of privileges, etc., and because of clear violations of forum guidelines.

Even if I WANTED to, I have no power to make ANY unilateral decisions on this board, and you know it. How many other things do you know are completely untrue that you continue to put forward? Honestly, it makes me question your veracity on other subjects, since I know this particular one is false and you know it is false. How far into the weeds of "truthiness" are you willing to go to make a point? One that you know to be untrue? One wonders.....

What I "know" is that I've been suspended, without notice, on the old site within 5 minutes of questioning your actions, and in Bae's case, another Administrator had no idea he'd been banned until several weeks after the fact, which sorta makes me wonder about how much "consensus, lengthy discussion and communication" actually goes on. But, this is a new incarnation and you guys don't seem to be quite as "kneejerky" (I can repeat a phrase in the general sense after having it used to refer to me specifically can't I?) as you used to be, well not as consistently anyway.

By the way, good job on branding me as a liar, it goes well with your previous descriptions of me as "rabble rouser", "trouble maker", "thin skinned malcontent", etc. Some things never change.

[Spartana]

I didn't see the video either but am curious as to why the mods deleted it (enquirering minds want to know :-)!). I'm also curious, being very unfamilair with proper forums conduct, why the mods must check a persons IP address when they first sign on or in order to see if someone is trying to regain enty onto the boards if they've been banned. And how do they do that with people like me who use free wi-fi in various locations -and even various e-mail addresses wouldn't it be different at each place? It seems to me that a free web site that is "suppose" to be anounomaus (sp?) wouldn't need to "check out" anyone if they wanted to post here. I can see banning them if they are totally out of hand but am suprised that they would go to great lengths to stop a poster - new or old - from starting fresh with a new ID if they wanted. Someone enlighten me. And what would cause someone to be banned anyways? Crude language? Personal attacks? Gloating ;-)? Also how do you check an IP address? Is that something anyone can do from their computer to check out someone else?