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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Yes. Small, local government without any messianic pretensions.

    Then how do you explain post 1673 by flowerseverywhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Then how do you explain post 1673 by flowerseverywhere?
    Is the GOP the perfect instrument for my brand of conservatism? No, although even in its present state it’s head and shoulders above the alternative. I’m not so trapped in the Guelph and Ghibelline mindset that so many suffer from that I feel the need to defend everyone in one camp and attack everyone in the other.

    I will say that as a parent of a trans kid that I have little time or patience for either side of that ridiculous new branch of identity politics. Look at that imbecilic imbroglio currently playing out at the New York Times, for instance.

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    LDAHL, Which of the current republican party priorities are you such a fan of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    LDAHL, Which of the current republican party priorities are you such a fan of?
    I like that they want to gain some measure of control over the southern border. I think setting up a Select Committee on the CCP was a good idea and long overdue. I know people are whining about how they “want to investigate every little thing”, but I think there is no shortage of abuse out there that could stand a little scrutiny. Everybody clapped like seals when the president called the big entitlement programs inviolate, but something will need to be done before long or they will go insolvent. I don’t see the Democrats doing anything about that. I liked that they worked to block that egregious new criminal code for DC. From what I am reading, they are looking for ways to keep the Executive Branch from exercising powers not granted it by the Constitution such as the ridiculous student loan giveaway.

    As always, I’m guardedly optimistic about the future.

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    I noticed in today's news that the GOP is putting together an energy package what the news claims as their first big agenda item. It seems to have the trade mark of old school GOP fossil fuel encouragement, like opening up more public lands for oil development and renewing any keystone XL line efforts. Of course it has little chance of passing in the current regime, but I suppose they would like to keep the effort alive as a campaign issue since no one like expensive gas. In my biased view of things, human caused climate change denial, or at the best lip service, is the second big lie of the GOP.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...icans-00085415

    I wonder if voters were offered the choice of SS and Medicare cutbacks, or an across the board tax increase, which the voters would choose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I noticed in today's news that the GOP is putting together an energy package what the news claims as their first big agenda item. It seems to have the trade mark of old school GOP fossil fuel encouragement, like opening up more public lands for oil development and renewing any keystone XL line efforts. Of course it has little chance of passing in the current regime, but I suppose they would like to keep the effort alive as a campaign issue since no one like expensive gas. In my biased view of things, human caused climate change denial, or at the best lip service, is the second big lie of the GOP.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...icans-00085415

    I wonder if voters were offered the choice of SS and Medicare cutbacks, or an across the board tax increase, which the voters would choose?
    I don’t think you need to be a climate change denier to recognize the foolishness of scrapping sources of energy before the replacements are available.

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    Scrapping and refusing to expand are NOT the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I don’t think you need to be a climate change denier to recognize the foolishness of scrapping sources of energy before the replacements are available.
    I don't think it's quite that simple. There are fossil fuels replacements at a cost, and there is a cost with not doing anything about climate change. For those who don't recognize there is a problem or that it's not important, the solution will probably be very elusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Yes. Small, local government without any messianic pretensions.
    I almost laughed out loud. Like the t shirt a woman wore in my local grocery store that said Trump is my Jesus? About people quoting the Christian bible to prevent abortions, morning after pills And some contraceptives? All the while advocating for the death penalty?
    About demonizing women and subjecting them and their children to poverty while child support goes uncollected? Taking kids away from their parents because of their gender preferences?

    I'm all for small government if schools, police, fire and healthcare are functioning well. But Our government, insurance companies, and Institutions are so bloated and full of consultants, managers, CEO's and so on things are totally out of whack. It runs across both parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    I almost laughed out loud. Like the t shirt a woman wore in my local grocery store that said Trump is my Jesus? About people quoting the Christian bible to prevent abortions, morning after pills And some contraceptives? All the while advocating for the death penalty?
    About demonizing women and subjecting them and their children to poverty while child support goes uncollected? Taking kids away from their parents because of their gender preferences?

    I'm all for small government if schools, police, fire and healthcare are functioning well. But Our government, insurance companies, and Institutions are so bloated and full of consultants, managers, CEO's and so on things are totally out of whack. It runs across both parties.
    Perhaps you didn't read the “ without messianic pretensions” part?

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