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    Flowers, I totally agree with you and Desantis has turned into a disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    So it’s Christlike us versus Hitlerian them? That sort of thinking has produced some tragicomical results over the years.
    I am an atheist. DeSantis is combatting the war on morals and Christianity. It seems like anything but to my knowledge. Do you think any one group has the right to impose their supposed religious bent into the political arena? Do you think a war on Christianity is a real thing that needs to be combatted by politicians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    I am an atheist. DeSantis is combatting the war on morals and Christianity. It seems like anything but to my knowledge. Do you think any one group has the right to impose their supposed religious bent into the political arena? Do you think a war on Christianity is a real thing that needs to be combatted by politicians?
    You don’t need to be religious to have messianic pretensions. I think what we are seeing, and what DeSantis is (however crudely) combating is a sort of neopuritanism, with it’s own clerisy of HR bureaucrats, DEI apparatchiks and media choristers to spread the faith and punish heretics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    You don’t need to be religious to have messianic pretensions. I think what we are seeing, and what DeSantis is (however crudely) combating is a sort of neopuritanism, with it’s own clerisy of HR bureaucrats, DEI apparatchiks and media choristers to spread the faith and punish heretics.
    Several terms I won't bother to look up, but I would say that there is a significant overlap with the religious right and male dominated white supremacy, although not ubiquitous. And that overlap extends disproportionately into the politics of certain conservative politics where it has no place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Several terms I won't bother to look up, but I would say that there is a significant overlap with the religious right and male dominated white supremacy, although not ubiquitous. And that overlap extends disproportionately into the politics of certain conservative politics where it has no place.
    There has never been a time in our history where religion has had less influence than it does now. I think the same applies to “male dominated white supremacy”.

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    There has never been a time in our history where religion has had less influence than it does now. I think the same applies to “male dominated white supremacy”.
    lol. that's why there is SO MUCH PUSHBACK from those who espouse the theory that men and whiteness and Christianity are "under attack", is it not? People see that their (un-earned, unjust) dominance may be coming to an end, and they are scared shitless and lashing out. I think many are perfectly willing to take the ship to the bottom, just so that they don't have to see what a more just, fair, equality-driven future may look like, with them NOT in charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    There has never been a time in our history where religion has had less influence than it does now. I think the same applies to “male dominated white supremacy”.
    I don't know that a historical perspective makes it any less problematic, if it has value at all. There was obviously a time not too long ago when women in professional occupations were discouraged or frowned upon and certain race origins were not allowed in certain prestigious universities. And if you go back a couple more decades you get into the popular eugenics movement. Hopefully we are letting go of our sullied past.

    This is not then. Or as one might say, statistically independent.

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    More DeSantis shenanigans

    https://www.npr.org/2023/04/18/11706...ersight-powers

    let’s make the state spend money to target rides at Disney by having outside inspectors. But exempt the other parks. The system seems to be working for years and years before Mr Woke starting picking his fight with them. It will only cost Floridians more and for what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    So it’s Christlike us versus Hitlerian them? That sort of thinking has produced some tragicomical results over the years.
    Indeed. That does seem to be the war that republicans are waging on the rest of us. Lets hope the results aren't as tragic as all the previous times Christians tried to do this to "the others".

    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    There has never been a time in our history where religion has had less influence than it does now. I think the same applies to “male dominated white supremacy”.
    You may well be right about that. Perhaps that's why the white christian freakout is currently happening. They know that they are losing.

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    I posit that many of us have racial memories of suffering at the hands of religious fanatics, and reflexively distrust fundamentalist religionists. Especially when their beliefs seemingly have nothing to do with the teaching of Jesus.

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