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    https://www.thefp.com/p/top-trans-do...ow-the-whistle

    Here Dr. Marci Bowers who makes her living creating women from men and vice versa, the creator of 2000 vaginas, cautions that medical treatment of minors often goes too far too fast. She wanted to write an editorial about that, but the New York Times didn’t like it back in 2021.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/01/o...hcare-law.html

    But this recent opinion piece by Marci Bowersis more in line with New York Times thinking so they accepted this particular work. As the recent head of WPATH, the organization that sets treatment standards for trans people, she’s responding to all of the state actions out there blocking medicalized treatment.

    I don’t find her two articles to be necessarily in conflict.

    As far as state legislatures making medical policy, that is bad, a bad idea. I can’t imagine laws that are nuanced enough to fit every human condition that doctors and health professionals must address. I do think there’s a place for government in this arena, and I think the feds could fund some really good studies. There is no one study that everyone agrees tells us complete and accurate facts about gender transition. That is a grave concern. It is also a concern of researchers that studies that might be perceived to be transphobic will not be funded, and actually should not even be spoken of because the proposer will be banned.

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    "That is a grave concern. It is also a concern of researchers that studies that might be perceived to be transphobic will not be funded, and actually should not even be spoken of because the proposer will be banned."

    Reading The Truth in Small Doses makes me despair for all the medical studies and medical breakthroughs that will never see the light of day due to the brutal politics of medical journals.

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    There was an article in the Economist last week about this. European researchers and doctors have been cautioning restraint for some years but the US just went full bore ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    There was an article in the Economist last week about this. European researchers and doctors have been cautioning restraint for some years but the US just went full bore ahead.
    Perhaps the U.S. enjoys bigger monies to be raked in on the bodies of these kids and young people.

    The UK closed its transgender specialty clinic this month in light of specious research, lack of facts, and treatments motivated by a political agenda.

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    I see that desantis has doubled down on his ‘hate the gays’ platform with the state school expanding the ‘pretend LGBTQ people don’t exist’ law to cover schools all the way through 12th grade. It seems weird to me that he is throwing away his chance at the presidency in such dramatic fashion. Between this and his new abortion law he will have an impossible time winning any of the moderate voters that republicans have aggressively been turning away the past few elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I see that desantis has doubled down on his ‘hate the gays’ platform with the state school expanding the ‘pretend LGBTQ people don’t exist’ law to cover schools all the way through 12th grade. It seems weird to me that he is throwing away his chance at the presidency in such dramatic fashion. Between this and his new abortion law he will have an impossible time winning any of the moderate voters that republicans have aggressively been turning away the past few elections.
    DeSantis’ pivot to limiting abortion to 6 weeks vs 15 weeks gives The Donald ammo against him. I am not happy about this, do not want DJ Trump getting a leg up. However, jp, you may remember that the abortion issue is a state issue, so Desantis may not be playing well to the Florida audience, but if he reminds everyone that each state gets to decide their abortion law, he may be ok.

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    As has been made clear by Lindsay graham, Alan, that judge in Amarillo and many other republicans abortion is very much not a state issue and no Republican who makes that claim, even if they actually mean it, is going to be believed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    As has been made clear by Lindsay graham, Alan, that judge in Amarillo and many other republicans abortion is very much not a state issue and no Republican who makes that claim, even if they actually mean it, is going to be believed.
    When I offered to discuss this federalism issue with you in a thread dedicated to the subject, you declined. So why do you keep trying to bring me back into it?
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    It seemed relevant to the conversation to point out that plenty of republicans don’t think federalism applies to the conversation. Unlike our former president I’m not a big believer in using the ‘some people are saying…’ method of debating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    It seemed relevant to the conversation to point out that plenty of republicans don’t think federalism applies to the conversation. Unlike our former president I’m not a big believer in using the ‘some people are saying…’ method of debating.
    Yet, you continually tell me and others like me what we think. You so often mis characterize what the monolithic Republican group, the monolithic conservative group, etc. think.

    Frankly, I was surprised to see you mention “moderate” Republicans in post #385.

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