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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    You can claim that bombing Mexico is a plank in the GOP platform.

    You can claim there is no GOP platform.

    But you can’t claim both.
    I don't have to "claim" that both Tim Scott and the republican party leader Donald Trump, two of the current clowns running for president, have espoused "bomb mexico" as part of their platforms. They both have. It'll be interesting to see if the random other folks running for president from your party run away from that part of the platform or towards it. Considering that Ron Desantis has seemed to have adopted a platform of "whatever trump does I'll do it even more" I assume he'll soon be adding "bomb mexico right after we bomb my state's biggest employer and tourist attraction" to his platform.

    But to be fair, you're right. To claim that the republican party has any sort of coherent policy priorities beyond "hate people that aren't cis het straight white male folks" is probably giving too much credit to the modern day republican party.

    I'm curious what your "exalted thinkers" on your bookshelves think about all this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I don't have to "claim" that both Tim Scott and the republican party leader Donald Trump, two of the current clowns running for president, have espoused "bomb mexico" as part of their platforms.
    I suspect you're referencing various comments from both regarding the war on drugs, particularly fentanyl coming across the border from various cartels. I think both have suggested a military presence at the border and the robust usage of intelligence resources to bring them down as well as labeling the cartels as terrorist organizations responsible for the deaths of over one hundred thousand US citizens each year over the last decade or so.

    I haven't heard the phrase "bomb Mexico" though so maybe you're referencing something else?
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    "When I am president, the drug cartels using Chinese labs and Mexican factories to kill Americans will cease to exist," Scott vowed. "I will freeze their assets, I will build the wall, and I will allow the world's greatest military to fight these terrorists. Because that's exactly What the are.”

    I’m curious how the US military is going to fight Mexican drug cartels without going to Mexico. Or are you trying to say that he’s a lying f*** who didn’t actually mean what he said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    No, I don't. I've heard that lots of folks became disenchanted with the platform once they began correcting false claims and mis-information, are those the 'we' you mentioned?

    Of what?
    Twitter and DeSantis both are the reflection of each other… as exemplified by the DeSantis announcement… the twitter announcement was disastrous as is DeSantis (as shown by his actions in FL). It was/is the perfect pairing.

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    I see DeSantis defeating Biden in a lot of recent polling. To me, the electorally sane path would be to nominate DeSantis rather than experience yet another Trump related disaster.

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    Reason #497: Senator Tommy Tuberville

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c50746...itary-nominees

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I see DeSantis defeating Biden in a lot of recent polling. To me, the electorally sane path would be to nominate DeSantis rather than experience yet another Trump related disaster.
    The Republicans who do not see Trump as a huge liability are no worse than the Democrats who do not see a stumbling, frail, out-of-it old man as a liability.

    WHO is propping up Biden to run again, anyway? Who are these idiots? I wonder if Biden would step down if he had a .Vice President who the public could stomach.

    In a Trump vs Kamala Harris match, Trump takes her down easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    The Republicans who do not see Trump as a huge liability are no worse than the Democrats who do not see a stumbling, frail, out-of-it old man as a liability.

    WHO is propping up Biden to run again, anyway? Who are these idiots? I wonder if Biden would step down if he had a .Vice President who the public could stomach.

    In a Trump vs Kamala Harris match, Trump takes her down easily.



    I hope not. No one is worse than traitor trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    The Republicans who do not see Trump as a huge liability are no worse than the Democrats who do not see a stumbling, frail, out-of-it old man as a liability.

    WHO is propping up Biden to run again, anyway? Who are these idiots? I wonder if Biden would step down if he had a .Vice President who the public could stomach.

    In a Trump vs Kamala Harris match, Trump takes her down easily.
    Judging from how well biden played the republicans in the debt ceiling negotiations he seems to be doing just fine. And as he has said before "we don't have to be better than the almighty, we just need to be better than the alternative". And if the alternative is a twice impeached dude who attempted to overthrow the government and is currently on trial for stealing defense secrets and sharing them with people who shouldn't be seeing them and who was strongly disliked before most of that happened I suspect that biden will do just fine. Not to mention that if it's biden/trump the old man argument against biden doesn't hold much water since trump is another old man, and one who happens to also be a fat slob with terrible health habits, unlike biden. Obviously any number of things could happen in the next 16.5 months, but barring any big surprises 2024 is biden's to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    The Republicans who do not see Trump as a huge liability are no worse than the Democrats who do not see a stumbling, frail, out-of-it old man as a liability.
    I don't see either as being optimum, but the differences are certainly not insignificance in relevance to competency. The odd part is that those are the two top contenders, which a person might suppose is a reflation of voter choices. At 77 Trump is no spring chicken with a poor lifestyle. A person could probably speculate on who has the best odds of survival, not to mention mental agility. As I see it, the age issue on it's own is pretty much a wash.

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