LGBT rights in the USA today...

[iris lilies]

Also, the demographic populating this space is primarily old, cis, and hetero; not necessarily a bad thing. Shrug.

I do see a real age divide on the issue of trans women trampling and invading women’s spaces and taking over women’s issues. Whether you think they are doing that or not, it is interesting that “ old dingbat lesbos” are the leading voices in the UK in speaking up about it. Younger folks are subject to cancellation.

I haven’t made up my mind about much of it,, but I DO see instances of young women being intimidated to accept and celebrate their husband’s transitions to women. Young gay girls being ridiculed as transphobes for not dating trans women. Young girls cowed by adult males stripping down in lockers and changing rooms.

us old bats are far less likely to put up with that bullshit.

[JaneV2.0]

Admittedly, I don't get out much (at all), but I don't know any transwomen, and I don't believe their numbers are such that they're wreaking havoc wholesale in society. I can't imagine that many women are accepting and celebrating a newly-gendered husband, either--though there was that author and her wife...At any rate, there are plenty of societal problems I can worry about, if I'm so inclined (Great Reset, anyone?) so I'll sit trans panic out.

[early morning]

Yeah, I agree with Jane, I think it's mostly a non-issue. As it happens I do know a family in which the husband is currently transitioning (after landing a job with decent insurance). The wife, who is cis, has been encouraging this change since the husband finally realized that she is indeed more female than male. Cis wife says she fell in love with the person, not the gender, and has every confidence that they will continue to be happy together. They have a daughter, who is of course also in counseling, and seems to be taking it in stride, she's known about her father's mis-gender much of her life. Both parents are very focused on her well being. I can only hope it all works out well for them! They are hardly a threat to world order.

[Rogar]

And not pointing out the greater number of similarities trivializes those.

At this point since the republicans don’t actually have a meaningful policy platform beyond win at any cost the culture war strategy of divide and conquer is pretty much all they’ve got going for them.

Now that Bidens build back better plan for infrastructure and environment is on it’s way, I wonder what the dem platform will be, if anything. There will always be the tradition differences between progressive and conservative. I’ve not heard any discussion from anyone about climate change in spite of worsening weather extremes. Although Pence has referred to things as the “war against energy”.

Relatively speaking, LGBT issues seem far less significant, if not an invention of political theater.

[JaneV2.0]

The climate change issue will probably come to a head when the WHO/WEF led movers and shakers in our government try to substitute insects and lab-grown meat for the real thing in Americans' already pathogenic diet, as they are already moving to do in parts of Europe. Phase out fossil fuels, advance technology, modify and/or shut down factory farms--there are plenty of meaningful actions that can be taken instead. Meat is not, and has never been, the enemy.

"Climate change" is likely to be the Trojan Horse within which the WHO/WEF makes serious inroads into our lives, IMO.

[jp1]

Relatively speaking, LGBT issues seem far less significant, if not an invention of political theater.

Given the relatively small number of lgbt folks compared to the size of the total population that may well be true. But the Republican war on us seems to be bearing fruit, at least among republicans. In just one year republicans opinion about the moral acceptability of same sex relationships has dropped 15 points, from 56% last year to 41% this year. That terrifying change calls to mind the change in attitudes towards gay people during the Weimar Republic, during which LGBT people were considered relatively acceptable but after which gay Germans were rounded up and sent to concentration camps.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gallup...e=pocket_saves

[ApatheticNoMore]

Relatively speaking, LGBT issues seem far less significant, if not an invention of political theater.

Yea it's less significant than climate change. Climate change is going to kill billions worldwide, disruptions in agriculture, etc.

[Rogar]

Yes, not to totally diminish LBGT issues, but I get the impression that it has become a major campaign platform, which is basically the anti woke platform of DeSantis. And the dems seem as lacking in more significant campaign issues as the GOP. A lot of this is due to media attention and strikes me as theater.

Gays were not the only non Jewish minority target of the WWII concentration camps. Just ask the Jehovah Witnesses.

[jp1]

Maybe someone should suggest to desantis that jehovas witnesses are as dreadful as us gay people. We would probably all benefit if he spread the hate around.

[JaneV2.0]

Don't forget the trade unionists, the disabled, Romany people...