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    I still hold out hope for Tim Scott. He must be getting at least some traction, or they wouldn’t be trying out Uncle Tom smears on him.

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    And the latest on Florida

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-ef...y?id=101996465

    So AP psychology cannot mention sexuality because Ron the dictator says so. No AP African American or psychology unless they change the curriculum to what they want.

    Imagine the students they are hurting. Maybe they can offer bible study instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    And the latest on Florida
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    Imagine the students they are hurting. Maybe they can offer bible study instead.
    At a certain point, people bear some responsibility for the people they choose to put in office.

    If Floridians enjoy this sort of thing, well, more power to them and their hellscape.

    Heck, there's a good chance Trump will get re-elected in 2024.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    At a certain point, people bear some responsibility for the people they choose to put in office.

    If Floridians enjoy this sort of thing, well, more power to them and their hellscape.

    Heck, there's a good chance Trump will get re-elected in 2024.
    i’m fascinated to know what kind of established, irrefutable facts about gender and its identity they are teaching. You know, THE SCIENCE of psychology and sociology of gender. Are there any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I still hold out hope for Tim Scott. He must be getting at least some traction, or they wouldn’t be trying out Uncle Tom smears on him.
    Lol. Judging from his milk toast response to the trump indictments the other day he has about as much chance as peewee Herman of becoming president.

    His lame response may be fine for you but it appeals to exactly no one. Magas will hate it. Democracy lovers will hate it. Only the 5% of people like you that are in between those two groups will find it at all acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Lol. Judging from his milk toast response to the trump indictments the other day he has about as much chance as peewee Herman of becoming president.

    His lame response may be fine for you but it appeals to exactly no one. Magas will hate it. Democracy lovers will hate it. Only the 5% of people like you that are in between those two groups will find it at all acceptable.
    I think there is more space between people who love Trump and people who love to hate Trump than you suggest. I think the more people see of Scott the more they will like him. In an era of frothing-at-the-mouth hatred and puerile insults passing for politics, he’s a breath of fresh air. The non-neurotic vote may be larger than you think, and being insuffiently agitated could actually be a positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    i’m fascinated to know what kind of established, irrefutable facts about gender and its identity they are teaching. You know, THE SCIENCE of psychology and sociology of gender. Are there any?
    The article posted refers to that. All around us sexuality, gender, and identity is something to understand. Making believe it doesn't exist will not make it go away. Education About it makes informed, critical thinkers.

    I spent 30+ years working on locked psych wards, plus some in addiction units. So many people have sexual conflicts, have dealt with sexual abuse, sexual harassment, gender identity and rejection by their family due to their sexual preferences. there is no one way to deal with them. But understanding and accepting them is the first step. What are republicans afraid of? Perhaps they protest too much.

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    Greg Abbott


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    Greg Abbott is a great example of how not to be a human being--born without a soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    The article posted refers to that. All around us sexuality, gender, and identity is something to understand. Making believe it doesn't exist will not make it go away. Education About it makes informed, critical thinkers.

    I spent 30+ years working on locked psych wards, plus some in addiction units. So many people have sexual conflicts, have dealt with sexual abuse, sexual harassment, gender identity and rejection by their family due to their sexual preferences. there is no one way to deal with them. But understanding and accepting them is the first step. What are republicans afraid of? Perhaps they protest too much.

    Oh, I know and I’m not interested in tamping down on topics taught or removing books from public libraries or necessarily other libraries, so in the big overview picture sure – sex, sexuality, gender, identity, etc. exist and I theoretically support those appropriate topics for education. You speak in generalities, and I agree.

    I just wonder what exactly they are teaching about those topics. The devil is in the details. I think it’s likely that some “statements of fact” a teacher might make would be ones I disagree with as factual.

    I don’t want to control information that might promote a point of view in opposition to mine, I would much rather see an atmosphere of free and open discussion on these and other matters. It’s just that it’s unlikely in our educational institutions these days. That is too bad, the quashing of intellectual exploration from all sides of the political spectrum. It’s unfortunate.

    Nothing I’m saying here is intending to support the state of Florida’s control on sex and race education. Neither am I necessarily supporting the current educational environment.

    if I had children, I was sending to public school. I hope I would have enough sense to counter at home some of the nonsense they’re getting in classroom instruction, but I would also welcome a broadening of their outlook on life they might not get in my home. If they felt inclined to —for instance—use the wrong nomenclature in their gender study class which would earn them a failing grade, would counsel them to smile and go along with the game in order to get a good grade. I think my kids would be smart enough at high school age to understand life is not black-and-white.

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