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    Iris, in this case, we are talking about 17 and 18 year olds. To be in Advanced Placement classes obviously you either are naturally gifted or study and are inquisitive. Kids who are headed for higher study in most cases. These kids are not idiots. Even in the most rigid "Christian" homes, if you are in public school and out in public, you see gay people. Kids who keep up with pop culture certainly know what is going on around them.

    It really saddens me to think of the opportunities missed if kids are not exposed to the ideas in these advanced studies classes.

    I would much rather see outrage about the lying ex President and his badgering and name calling.

    And by the way, DeSantis has pledged to "slit throats on day one" in his presidential campaign. Maybe some fox watching idiot will try to get a head start.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ch/ar-AA1eKK24

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    Iris, in this case, we are talking about 17 and 18 year olds. To be in Advanced Placement classes obviously you either are naturally gifted or study and are inquisitive. Kids who are headed for higher study in most cases. These kids are not idiots. Even in the most rigid "Christian" homes, if you are in public school and out in public, you see gay people. Kids who keep up with pop culture certainly know what is going on around them.
    out of curiosity, do you know what details are in the curriculum for AP classes about sexuality and gender? do you suppose conflicting opinions are presented? I think of this is a “social problems class” where required readings would include the likes of Deborah Soh, Kathleen Stock, Hannah Barnes in addition to the usual trans promoters Julia Sereno and her crowd.


    It really saddens me to think of the opportunities missed if kids are not exposed to the ideas in these advanced studies classes.
    it saddens me to think they’ll get to college where the ideology will be even more strongly promoted, echo chamber like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post

    …It really saddens me to think of the opportunities missed if kids are not exposed to the ideas in these advanced studies classes.
    Republicans are not the only ones who think gender information is scary and inappropriate! Democrats need to be exposed to ideas in gender studies.

    I just happened to watch a video clip from the congressional hearings on funding hospitals that perform gender reassignment surgeries, and the Democrats in the chamber got up and left in unison during testimony. They couldn’t stand to hear an expert on “their side “talk about the phalloplasty surgeries he performs, sometimes on adolescents.

    He talked about a little known problem in doing surgery on natal men whose puberty have been suppressed, and they do not have enough genital material to be formed into a pseudo-functional vagina. This is a new problem because up until now, very few puberty suppressed natal men have presented themselves for this specific surgery.

    it’s so weird that democratic congressmen don’t want to know about the drug regimes and gender surgery they are promoting.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgw3S5X3myI

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    I'm not sure how an AP class on sexuality and gender is offensive to anyone, or what it might have to do with phalloplasty (very little, I imagine.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I'm not sure how an AP class on sexuality and gender is offensive to anyone, or what it might have to do with phalloplasty (very little, I imagine.).
    I would not be “offended” but I would would be annoyed if the material did not present a balanced approach, and I would not respect the teacher.

    There is a pretty good chance I would be annoyed and feel disrespect for most teachers of most of these silly classes. The devil is in the details though, and I would be very interested in seeing a class curriculum and reading list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    out of curiosity, do you know what details are in the curriculum for AP classes about sexuality and gender? do you suppose conflicting opinions are presented? I think of this is a “social problems class” where required readings would include the likes of Deborah Soh, Kathleen Stock, Hannah Barnes in addition to the usual trans promoters Julia Sereno and her crowd.




    it saddens me to think they’ll get to college where the ideology will be even more strongly promoted, echo chamber like.
    Here is the curriculum explanation. As I expected, it does not go into the anatomy and physiology of it all. Section 6.7

    https://psychexamreview.com/ap-psych...20More%20items

    And I don't think these classes are silly at all. Truthful information enhances our lives. Studying the arts, sciences, literatre, language, math and so on are the backbone of an educated, inquisitive population.

    Also, I hate that teachers are being so demonized. The amount of distrust on the medical and educational community is appalling. No wonder there is a teacher, nurse and doctor shortage.

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    Another reason why Donald Trump is bad is because he signed into law the “COVID-19 consumer protection act” which is being used to silence a local St. Louis chiropractor who has a radio show. He talks about zinc and vitamin D preventing COVID-19.

    I have several thoughts about this, and they are:

    1. So hunh, a chiropractor selling snake oil cures. That’s hardly new.

    2. Clearly, he’s being targeted and held up as an example.I doubt they’re going to go after Rachel Maddow for her Covid misinformation. She was serving the overlords at the at CDC so she got the stamp of approval. Some misinformation spreaders are more equal than others.



    3. Did we REALLY need yet another law to address this sort of thing? Aren’t there existing laws that the FTC can invoke?

    4. Probably you all think this law is great so I guess you can thank Donald Trump for it.






    https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news...times-39481570





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    If a student in AP psychology has a differing opinion from whatever is presented as part of the curriculum then I would hope that they would speak up and present their alternative view. Then the whole class could discuss the pros/cons of the competing viewpoints and all would come away better educated and able to think critically. That’s kind of the whole point of a college education, and by extension high school classes that provide the opportunity to earn college credits. We need to get away from this awful perspective that college is simply a trade school to teach people how to do jobs and back to the idea that college teaches people how to think rationally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    Here is the curriculum explanation. As I expected, it does not go into the anatomy and physiology of it all. Section 6.7

    https://psychexamreview.com/ap-psych...20More%20items

    And I don't think these classes are silly at all. Truthful information enhances our lives. Studying the arts, sciences, literatre, language, math and so on are the backbone of an educated, inquisitive population.

    Also, I hate that teachers are being so demonized. The amount of distrust on the medical and educational community is appalling. No wonder there is a teacher, nurse and doctor shortage.
    This AP class is Introduction to psychology, it’s not specifically about sexuality and gender.

    I listened to section 6.7 “Gender and sexual orientation” and it is uncontroversial as far as I’m concerned. But this teacher ties gender and sexuality tightly very early in his lecture, and then doesn’t mention gender again. That is not current thought by the trans community, but that sort of thing could be discussed in class when a student challenges it.

    He mentioned twins study that shows of identical twins who are homosexual, only in 52% of those cases are both twins homosexual. I thought I remembered that percentage was quite a bit higher. In fraternal twins it’s 26% of the time that has both twins homosexual.

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    Vitamin D and zinc are well-known immune system boosters. Hardly controversial.

    In hindsight, the whole of international media was complicit in spreading questionable COVID 19 information, probably at the behest of their governments.

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