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    DeSantis in the debate:

    "...you got to do what you think is right. I believe in a culture of life. ... I'm going to stand on the side of life. "

    Also DeSantis in the debate:

    "We're going to use force and we're going to leave them stone-cold dead."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    DeSantis in the debate:

    "...you got to do what you think is right. I believe in a culture of life. ... I'm going to stand on the side of life. "

    Also DeSantis in the debate:

    "We're going to use force and we're going to leave them stone-cold dead."
    and the party of sanctity of life: the death penalty does not need a unanimous jury

    https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/ap...ost-facto-laws

    You can’t have a death penalty that could possibly be incorrect.

    he also told a story about someone named penny who who survived an abortion attempts. This happened in 1955 and the initial attempt was the father who used a coat hangar

    https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/pol...278586634.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    and the party of sanctity of life: the death penalty does not need a unanimous jury

    https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/ap...ost-facto-laws

    You can’t have a death penalty that could possibly be incorrect.

    he also told a story about someone named penny who who survived an abortion attempts. This happened in 1955 and the initial attempt was the father who used a coat hangar

    https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/pol...278586634.html
    I no longer think DeSantis has a chance of winning the nomination, but this could be a rash assessment brought on by my surprise at his awful performance.
    OTOH, I think Haley is carving out a more nuanced stance on abortion. It may serve her. I liked what she said about treating voters like adults and telling them, for example, that they're not going to get 60 votes in the Senate to ban abortion. She seems to be joining a growing number of R's who are willing to join the European nations, setting a Federal limit at 15 weeks - with allowances for maternal health emergencies. But she also reminds us, as do others, that this could be settled state by state.

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    Here is an interesting article. Florida, like many other red states, puts up big roadblocks to felons who have non violent crimes, and have completed their sentences to regain the right to vote or run for office. Yet if Trump is convicted of a felony it is OK by them.

    This is an opinion piece, and you might hate CNN, but the whole issue of amendment 4, and Desantis' role is explained here.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/29/polit...nes/index.html

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    After seeing how Republican DeSantis handled hurricanes vs. Democratic Green handling of wildfires, I'll take DeSantis. Wish he was my Governor.

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    What, specifically, is your beef with Green? He has a lot to contend with, for sure, but he seems to be out there supporting his people. Of course there's a lot of crap being published that isn't true (as per usual), but I've not seen anything that points to his mishandling of the situation. And be fair - DeSantis has had prior hurricane experience, while Hawaiian wildfires of this magnitude are not usual. Just wondering. What do you think DeSantis could do for Indiana, other than ramping up the culture wars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    What, specifically, is your beef with Green? He has a lot to contend with, for sure, but he seems to be out there supporting his people. Of course there's a lot of crap being published that isn't true (as per usual), but I've not seen anything that points to his mishandling of the situation. And be fair - DeSantis has had prior hurricane experience, while Hawaiian wildfires of this magnitude are not usual. Just wondering. What do you think DeSantis could do for Indiana, other than ramping up the culture wars?
    Instances of the mismanagement in Hawaii are out there if you want to read up on it but I am not sure it happened primarily at the state level. The locals did a bang up job in screwing things up including blocking the highway outta the fire. That was just…ummmm.

    And yes, .I agree Hawaii was not prepared for this unusual event since it does not happen to them with regularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    What, specifically, is your beef with Green?
    I don't have a beef with Green. He's the typical " yes man" politician, like the Governor of Indiana. DeSantis is a "getter done" kind of a guy. I respect that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    Just wondering. What do you think DeSantis could do for Indiana, other than ramping up the culture wars?
    If you want to see ramping up of the cultural war, look at the stunt Oprah and the Rock tried to pull. The backlash has been massive.
    People are finally seeing who the real villains are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cx3 View Post
    People are finally seeing who the real villains are.
    I think it is pretty clear who the "real villains" are...

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