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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    None of that detracts one iota from the current barbarity we are seeing right now.
    When people are desperate for freedom they do desperate things. And we didn't even have the justification of desperation when we waged or funded wars of imperialism, because we weren't threatened. So I just think it's hypocritical to go around bashing the Gazans as if we're so much better as a country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    When people are desperate for freedom they do desperate things. And we didn't even have the justification of desperation when we waged or funded wars of imperialism, because we weren't threatened. So I just think it's hypocritical to go around bashing the Gazans as if we're so much better as a country.
    I expect Hamas exerts similar barbaric stuff on their own citizens who would rise up against them, so I would not lump these miscreants in with all “Gazans.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    When people are desperate for freedom they do desperate things. And we didn't even have the justification of desperation when we waged or funded wars of imperialism, because we weren't threatened. So I just think it's hypocritical to go around bashing the Gazans as if we're so much better as a country.
    Sorry, but calling people who chop the heads off babies champions of the downtrodden doesn’t impress me as much of an argument.

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    Has anyone brought up this yet? 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust gives them the right to be where they are.

    Aka they can claim “victim hood” a hell of a lot more than the Palestinians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Has anyone brought up this yet? 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust gives them the right to be where they are.

    Aka they can claim “victim hood” a hell of a lot more than the Palestinians.
    Nope. The Palestinians didn't commit the Holocaust. We could have taken them into the US but we turned the ships away and let them die. Why couldn't the homeland be here? Or somewhere else?

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    Just read on the radio the terrorists killed 40 babies at a kibbutz. Time to go biblical on their asses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Has anyone brought up this yet? 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust gives them the right to be where they are.

    Aka they can claim “victim hood” a hell of a lot more than the Palestinians.
    And yet the land taken to create Israel came not from the people who persecuted the holocaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    And yet the land taken to create Israel came not from the people who persecuted the holocaust.
    I think if you use your Wayback Machine, you'll find out it goes back a looooong way. I blame Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    I think if you use your Wayback Machine, you'll find out it goes back a looooong way. I blame Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria
    Yep, If memory serves the Assyrians began harassing and relocating the Jewish inhabitants of the kingdoms of Israel and Judah about 3000 years ago, give or take a century or two. I'm not certain how many other groups have claimed the area since then but I think when people base their opinions on historical control, they need to actually know the history.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    How should the US respond if any of the hostages taken turn out to be our citizens? Especially when they start posting videos of executions?

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