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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    My favorite headline so far: “The Media Will Never Forgive Israel for Not Bombing that Hospital”.
    The most macabre humor is taking place over on Eric Levitz’ Twitter/X account where commenters are taking him to task for making the distinction without a difference that Israeli babies without heads were found in the Hamas carnage, but that did not necessarily indicate they were beheaded.

    Alrighty then.

    edited to add: Levitz is an editor at New York magazine. I’m not sure what lead to this softening of language about Hamas atrocities, but I can guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    The most macabre humor is taking place over on Eric Levitz’ Twitter/X account where commenters are taking him to task for making the distinction without a difference that Israeli babies without heads were found in the Hamas carnage, but that did not necessarily indicate they were beheaded.

    Alrighty then.

    edited to add: Levitz is an editor at New York magazine. I’m not sure what lead to this softening of language about Hamas atrocities, but I can guess.
    What is the source for this thing about the beheadings of babies? I just read this article by Eric Levitz, and I thought it was a very good opinion peace but saw nothing of parsing beheading language.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023...is-doomed.html

    I also watched CBS this morning's opinion piece by Hussain Ibish, also trying to neutralize extremist nationalism on both sides.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xtXH1Rzsy0
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    What is the source for this thing about the beheadings of babies? I just read this article by Eric Levitz, and I thought it was a very good opinion peace but saw nothing of parsing beheading language.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023...is-doomed.html

    I also watched CBS this morning's opinion piece by Hussain Ibish, also trying to neutralize extremist nationalism on both sides.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xtXH1Rzsy0
    The source is Eric Levitz’ own Twitter utterings 9 hours ago. His comments are still there, I just checked.

    But here is a screenshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    The source is Eric Levitz’ own Twitter utterings 9 hours ago. His comments are still there, I just checked.

    But here is a screenshot.

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    OK, I went to twitter to see it more clearly... that was a dumb comment for sure, but based on the what he says in the article, he is NOT an apologist for Hamas... in fact, he's the opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    OK, I went to twitter to see it more clearly... that was a dumb comment for sure, but based on the what he says in the article, he is NOT an apologist for Hamas... in fact, he's the opposite.
    Yes, agreed. I figured from his name he was a Jew and that’s why I went out to find the same article you did.

    and I’m surprised he said what he said on Twitter. It’s a very deliberate statement. Something is prompting it – his magazine, his lefty loo friends?

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    A final thought on this nasty business: Eric Levitz today explained his odd tweet as wanting to be precise in representing forensic outcomes.

    While I don’t think precision is all that important on this topic, I guess I can see where a professional writer with a wide audience (of East Coast liberals…cough cough) would want to accurately represent a very specific horrific situation. I will cut him slack, poor guy.
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    Iran’s other proxies in the region have been active. I see there have been sporadic clashes with Hezbollah along Israel’s northern border. The USS Carney has spent the last couple of weeks in the Red Sea intercepting Houthi missiles and drones launched out of Yemen.

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    I wonder what the end game for Israel would be. I can imagine after all the brutality is said and done, the young people in Gaza will want to grow up to be freedom fighters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I wonder what the end game for Israel would be..
    Survival?
    I can imagine after all the brutality is said and done, the young people in Gaza will want to grow up to be freedom fighters.

    Hamas spokesmen have publicly admitted that the brutality against Israelis will never end until the state of Israel and all Jews have been removed from the face of the earth. I suspect that promotes a little freedom fighting on the Jewish side of the border as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Survival?
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    Hamas spokesmen have publicly admitted that the brutality against Israelis will never end until the state of Israel and all Jews have been removed from the face of the earth. I suspect that promotes a little freedom fighting on the Jewish side of the border as well.
    It certainly paints a picture of eternal conflict until one or the other has killed all the others. I suspect Israel has the upper hand in ultimate survival, but not protection against rocket and terrorist attacks. Although the odds of escalation from other counties seems a decent possibility right now and all bets are off.
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