Anyone been reading about this?
The issue are homeless who do not want to go to shelters, cannot find shelter and so on. What would you think if your city did not try to fight it? The problem is all over the country and a case is now at the Supreme Court. Is it cruel and unusual punishment to tell people they can’t sleep in parks, sidewalks and so on?
They sh*t all over the place, drugs, alcohol, violence, trash all over. Look at San Francisco and Portland, homeless all over, who wants to visit when there’s sh*t all over the place?Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere
No, I don’t call it cruel.
The issue is complex and years in the making. Seems like most of the ones we see here prefer to live in camps along creeks or woods where they can do what they wish. I am sick of the litter and constant dangerous fires. I don't think it's cruel to disallow camping in public spaces but then where will they go without a concerted effort to place them elsewhere?
Fentanyl. As long as it keeps coming, nothing will get better. Here's a good story from the city across the river from PDX.
https://epaper.columbian.com/html5/r...d-f6e684b614a3
These almost seem like theoretical issues for the homeless, generally there aren't enough shelters for the homeless population anyway, noone is even trying to shelter them all, though the shelters may also not be particularly safe. I don't want homeless in parks etc., I also think most of them have nowhere to go.
Trees don't grow on money
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Substance abuse among the homeless is nothing new. Maybe more of it. Alcoholism has been an issue for years.
Because of issues around litter, human waste, crime, discarded needles, etc. I think that homeless should not be allowed to camp or otherwise occupy any public spaces or other places with no controls. At one time a lot of these people would have been in mental institutions. However, I don't think the federal government should be telling localities how to deal with this unless they are willing to pay for alternatives. Without further enlightenment, I think local governments should decide how to deal with the issue and have the approval of taxpayers on solutions.
"what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?" Mary Oliver
Does a human being have a right to exist in the world?
Morally, of course, but the devil is in the details. The homeless need incentives to change their lifestyle and there's both the stick and carrot to balance, although neither seems to work perfectly.
"what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?" Mary Oliver
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