Keffiyeh Kids

[bae]

Trespassing, free speech, time/place/manner restrictions and the 1st Amendment. Can be tricky determining how things work in not-quite-public spaces.

Pruneyard Shopping Center v. Robins, 447 U.S. 74 (1980) is a good start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruney...nter_v._Robins

[iris lilies]

I think that's advocating violence, so yes, they should be arrested if that's what actually happened. But that seems to have been an isolated event from what I can tell. University administrators wanting nonviolent protestors arrested for tresspassing or other BS is just that. BS that shouldn't be happening. If universities aren't the place for first amendment freedom what the hell are we actually trying to teach university students? To be good little doobies that meekly become cogs in the wheels of capitalism who know how to keep their mouths shut instead of saying inconvenient things?

Protesters who don’t deface property, who don’t interfere with the free flow of traffic or movement of their fellow citizens, protesters who make their opinions known through signs and chanting and then go home at night without rioting, those protestors are fine with me.

As I stated above Washington University administrators said their students were welcome to Exercise their free speech on campus but they were not welcome to set up camping gear and stay out overnight.

[jp1]

Protesters who don’t deface property, who don’t interfere with the free flow of traffic or movement of their fellow citizens, protesters who make their opinions known through signs and chanting and then go home at night without rioting, those protestors are fine with me.

As I stated above Washington University administrators said their students were welcome to Exercise their free speech on campus but they were not welcome to set up camping gear and stay out overnight.

So first amendment rights are not a 24/7 thing? Sounds kind of similar to the idea that homeless people need to figure out how to not need to sleep in public spaces.

[bae]

So first amendment rights are not a 24/7 thing? Sounds kind of similar to the idea that homeless people need to figure out how to not need to sleep in public spaces.

No.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_...e_Non-Violence

[jp1]

No.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_...e_Non-Violence

So are the courts going to decide that the ‘condition of college campuses’ outweigh the first amendment?

[iris lilies]

So first amendment rights are not a 24/7 thing? Sounds kind of similar to the idea that homeless people need to figure out how to not need to sleep in public spaces.

Well, in these cases that I’m looking at it is private property. Washington University here in St. Louis is not a public university. My guess is that if protesters were keeping a silent vigil at night with no camping gear administrators would not shoo them away.

as for protesting on public streets at night, law enforcement does have the authority to disburse crowds and impose curfews. During the Ferguson race I did wonder about the legality of curfews.

[jp1]

Well, in these cases that I’m looking at it is private property. Washington University here in St. Louis is not a public university. My guess is that if protesters were keeping a silent vigil at night with no camping gear administrators would not shoo them away.

as for protesting on public streets at night, law enforcement does have the authority to disburse crowds and impose curfews. During the Ferguson race I did wonder about the legality of curfews.

And this is a good example of why the decrease of public spaces is a bad thing. There’s been a big effort to turn perceived public spaces into private spaces over the years. That’s unfortunate. And has significant real life impacts on the reality of the first amendment. People that expound on how they support the first amendment but also support support the increase in not legally public spaces aren’t actually supporting the first amendment.

[iris lilies]

https://www.jns.org/ucla-allows-anti...wish-students/

what the heck is going on at UCLA? Can this be true? Jewish students who support Zionism are denied access to campus library? University administrators are supporting this? How can this possibly be true?

… paving the way for a Donald Trump victory this is..

I would like to see our current President of the United States address this.

[bae]

The ACLU:

https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speec...udent-protests

[iris lilies]

The ACLU:

https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speec...udent-protests

That is a decent message to colleges.