Why NOT to vote Republican

[LDAHL]

And now Jack Smith is requesting an equally absurd gag order prohibiting Trump from uttering his absurd claims about the 2020 election.

We are engaged in a race to the bottom.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...-order-motion/

[jp1]

And now Jack Smith is requesting an equally absurd gag order prohibiting Trump from uttering his absurd claims about the 2020 election.

We are engaged in a race to the bottom.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...-order-motion/

So you think trump should be able to encourage violence against law enforcement agents?

The author of the piece lost me in the two free paragraphs for nonsubscribers. The only reason all trump's trials are coming up so close to the election is trump's delay delay delay efforts. To try to pin the blame of that timing on anyone other than the head of the republican party, trump himself, is dishonest and makes the rest of the article suspect.

Since I couldn't read the article I'm going to take a guess that it had to do with Smith's most recent motion in Florida? Did the author also point out that trump's lawyers lied by selective omission about what the FBI's directive said? Or did he gloss over that as well as a good little shill for the traitor in chief?

[catherine]

Honestly, I'm willing to bet that at least 80% of the population doesn't care about this trial, or all the minutiae that almost no one is going to take the time to consider. It's a non-issue to most.

I am more and more convinced, unfortunately, that Trump is going to win. I see that RFK is, so far, likely to be a spoiler. I am more and more convinced that swing states are going to go for Trump. Biden's messages are not getting through to a lot of people. Trumps transgressions are completely dismissed by his base. My own DH, who is neither dummy nor "deplorable," sees Trump as a victim of the left with this trial circus.

I think we need to buckle our seat belts, folks. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

[iris lilies]

Hmmm, I would argue that Biden’s messages ARE getting through.

[jp1]

Most voters are low information. If Biden can get them to pay attention for five minutes they will remember why they hated the orange dirtbag and his entire party four years ago. If not then it will be time to move to another country while the American experiment implodes spectacularly.

[Alan]

Most voters are low information. If Biden can get them to pay attention for five minutes they will remember why they hated the orange dirtbag and his entire party four years ago. If not then it will be time to move to another country while the American experiment implodes spectacularly.

Of course when you base your political future on hate you risk alienating a huge segment of the population. The unending hate Democrats have felt towards Republicans for at least the last 8 years has pretty much guaranteed they're going to be really miserable for the next 4 or so.

As a parent, I've watched children work themselves into an emotional frenzy many times and learned that it's best to hug them, speak calming words and help them transition back to normalcy. I don't have much experience dealing with adults in that state, I think for now I'll just watch and be amused.

[early morning]

The unending hate Democrats have felt towards Republicans for at least the last 8 years

Really?? this is just silly. What are Republicans, then, the Love Party?? Republicans are flush with hatred, and thrilled to brandish threats, not to mention guns. To be clear, I believe that the spewing of hatred and working into emotional frenzy is endemic on the fringes of BOTH parties, but I sure see it much more in the right wingers. I have a friend with whom I've agreed that political talk is off limits, because I'm really concerned he's going to stroke out. He believes - really!- that Biden is the devil. He fired his VA therapist for pointing out that his VA benefits come from the "evil government" and that such programs are, in fact, socialistic in nature. He tolerates me because, in his words - he knew me as a person "before Obama tried to make us all Black Socialists". (He is one of many, but he's the only one I continue to communicate with.) Our neighbors, Republicans who don't particularly like Trump, have said they are afraid to say so aloud, and are not putting up yard signs for their candidate of choice any longer. And it's not those of us on the left they are afraid of.

[catherine]

Our neighbors, Republicans who don't particularly like Trump, have said they are afraid to say so aloud, and are not putting up yard signs for their candidate of choice any longer. And it's not those of us on the left they are afraid of.

DH received a MAGA hat back in 2016 from one of my DILs (the only other Republican family member)--and he won't wear it because he fears how people will view him. Honestly, I think intolerance is a bipartisan emotion. Both sides suffer from intolerance to the opposite party's ideologies.

As a bleeding heart liberal and Democratic Socialist, I am ashamed that my husband is afraid to wear his hat in public (even as I cringe at the thought of it--and I personally feel he doesn't want to identify with the true Trump fans. He simply doesn't like Biden and he has this crazy idea that we were better off under Trump--haha).

But the GOP definitely has the same disgust for what has become the left wing caricature--people in ivory towers passing moral judgement. If anyone believes the GOP is less "emotional" than the Democrats over their distaste for what the liberal elite class has come to represent.. well..

I do not like Trump because he has way too many "character flaws" for my taste for a leader of the free world. I cannot respect one inch of him. In fact when I think of my Trump-fan friends, I want to tell them, "You guys are GOOD PEOPLE. This guy doesn't deserve to lick the soles of your shoes." (Did anyone see that Memorial Day text that Eric Trump posted about how his family "has sacrificed everything"?)

But we are never going to get anywhere by attacking the people he is hoodwinking who truly think he is best for this country. I think most Republicans will vote for him because of his GOP policies--not because they would want him as a family member.

I watched Ken Burns' Brandeis commencement speech, which was excellent until he got to the part where he warned us against voting for Trump. I later learned that he has been called a "yellow dog" Democrat, meaning that he would vote for a yellow dog before voting Republican. I don't think that that kind of ideological fervor is healthy in either camp. We need to learn to ask more questions of each other.

[early morning]

Catherine, your DH could wear his MAGA hat here and fit right in. I don't mind MAGA hat wearing per se. If people believe THEY have the right to wear political attire, then they need to extend that right to all OTHER groups. MAGA hats do not trump Pride flags or BLM shirts, or vice-versa. I do believe that's what the US is supposed to stand for. Equal rights for all (and leave whatever god anyone may wish to invoke out of it). And I agree with you, Catherine, that we need to ask more questions of each other. Just be careful who you ask what, because lots of people have really thin skins. And some of them carry. Just sayin'. But all this inspires me to go dig out my big "I Hate Elvis" button and see if I can tick off boomers on all sides, lol.

[catherine]

But all this inspires me to go dig out my big "I Hate Elvis" button and see if I can tick off boomers on all sides, lol.

You can say what you want about The King. Just don't wear an "I hate the Beatles" button around me. I might just beat you up regardless of all that peace and love stuff they sang about!