Why Not to Vote Democrat

[bae]

Multi-millionaires failing to pay their multi million tax bill. Screw them.

Concur.

[Rogar]

It's not missing, the FBI has had it for the last 5 years.

I had to look it up. Wikipedia has quite the saga. It seems like the origin of some evidence starts with Giuliani, which sort of raises a flag. Then bannon has it, then the FBI, then it’s Russian disinformation. The whole story was a little convoluted. Where ever it’s at, I still hope Jim Jordan is torked off.

Edit, added link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter...op_controversy

[early morning]

Well, Hunter Biden got caught, and then he paid off his back taxes. Illegal, immoral, unethical - probably all of those. But he DID pay, so I don't see this pardon as that big of a deal. The gun charge is a laugh, even many MAGAs I know thought it was a stupid political stunt by other Trumpers, and would lead to more gun purchase laws and scrutiny - which they are dead set against. Trump hasn't exactly been forthcoming with his tax info, but I do seem to recall something about a couple of his companies being charged with tax fraud. Not saying Hunter's a great guy - but really, don't we have more important things to be getting our knickers in a twist about?

Overall, I'd agree with IL - "Multi-millionaires failing to pay their multi million tax bill. Screw them." AND make them pay it back! How much would it cost to keep Hunter Biden, or Donald Trump, in jail? What is the point? Fine the hell out of them, keep them on automatic yearly audit, make sure they pay their share, and don't tie up more taxpayer money on special guards, special cells, in special prisons, for special criminals. (Yeah, I know it's not that simple, but I can dream, right??)

Edit to add: Rogar - ANYTHING that torks off Gym Shorts Jordan is a good thing!

[frugal-one]

From the White House

“…Asked about the president's intentions to pardon Hunter Biden on Nov. 7, shortly after the election results came through in favor of Donald Trump, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said, "We've been asked that question multiple times. Our answer stands, which is no."

and


President Biden had also previously told ABC News' David Muir that he did not intend to pardon his son, during an interview in June. he said at the time he would accept the results of the trial.

Today doddery old Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter on that federal gun charge.

Now, I don’t consider that gun charge to be a big deal, but I wonder why the lying liar who lies had to lie over and over again about what he was going to do when we all knew what he was going to do. Also since this is a party that is so adamant about gun control I think it’s quaint they’re letting this slide by.

How is this any different than trump pardoning his sil's father for embezzlement. Hunter Biden was charged because he was Joe's son. He would never have been charged otherwise (like .09% of people have been charged in this circumstance). Actually, we should be more concerned about the felon who is going to be in the white house getting all of his charges expelled. That is the real travesty.

[iris lilies]

More “gun laws for thee, not for me” from Democrats:

The chief communications officer of Democratic NY Congressman Joe Morales was caught this morning bringing ammunition into a U.S. House office building. That is…not lawful.

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/02/mor...ted-ammunition

I can understand honestly forgetting to take one’s ammo Out of one’s bag.

But I cannot understand status of the ammo. The headline news says he holds it unlawfully. I’m not sure if that means he owns it unlawfully, or if it’s unlawful the moment he steps into US House building with it.

The overall lesson for me is it is obvious that Democratic operatives who preach about gun control, especially this guy who had to have written hundreds of communications scolding gun owners and the general public about the issue doesn’t believe his own rhetoric.

He lost his job. That is only fair and damage control, too.


Here we see Congressman Morales has sponsored MANY bills about gun control because he is so interested in that topic.


https://morelle.house.gov/issues/ena...nse-gun-reform

This is not a good day for Democrats. Perhaps we shouldn’t vote for them. Oh, wait…

[iris lilies]

Well, Hunter Biden got caught, and then he paid off his back taxes. Illegal, immoral, unethical - probably all of those. But he DID pay, so I don't see this pardon as that big of a deal. The gun charge is a laugh, even many MAGAs I know thought it was a stupid political stunt by other Trumpers, and would lead to more gun purchase laws and scrutiny - which they are dead set against. Trump hasn't exactly been forthcoming with his tax info, but I do seem to recall something about a couple of his companies being charged with tax fraud. Not saying Hunter's a great guy - but really, don't we have more important things to be getting our knickers in a twist about?

Overall, I'd agree with IL - "Multi-millionaires failing to pay their multi million tax bill. Screw them." AND make them pay it back! How much would it cost to keep Hunter Biden, or Donald Trump, in jail? What is the point? Fine the hell out of them, keep them on automatic yearly audit, make sure they pay their share, and don't tie up more taxpayer money on special guards, special cells, in special prisons, for special criminals. (Yeah, I know it's not that simple, but I can dream, right??)

Edit to add: Rogar - ANYTHING that torks off Gym Shorts Jordan is a good thing!

If it is true that all of Hunter’s back taxes and fees were paid even though they were NOT paid by him, OK I accept that. That’s the important restitution that matters most to me. I don’t know if it’s true that every tax charge he racked up was paid, but after Googling, I will accept your word for it. I wish I had his artist gig since one of his buddies paid him $1 million for 10 paintings. that’s nice.

[Alan]

I had to look it up.

Obviously.

Wikipedia has quite the saga.

Yes, it's been pretty interesting following the story in real time, Wikipedia has more of a Cliff Notes version.

[flowerseverywhere]

The massive amount of money that was spent investigating and charging Trump and the partisanship it created seems all for naught. If Hunter wasn’t pardoned, how much time and money would have been spent?

lets face it, there are two sets of rules. Is it right? Of course not. But all of this hullabaloo obscures what is Important and must be fixed.

Social Security and Medicare, The Deficit, Health care, immigration, the safety of our troops abroad. But they won’t be fixed if they keep throwing up smoke streams and clutching pearls when meaningful enforceable legislation could be passed. Because we all know if a quarter of the things the incoming administration wants to do are attempted, it will all be caught up in lawsuits. But first our senators have to face the music and look at the real problems and come up with even small solutions instead of kicking the can down the road.

[iris lilies]

The massive amount of money that was spent investigating and charging Trump and the partisanship it created seems all for naught. If Hunter wasn’t pardoned, how much time and money would have been spent?

lets face it, there are two sets of rules. Is it right? Of course not. But all of this hullabaloo obscures what is Important and must be fixed.

Social Security and Medicare, The Deficit, Health care, immigration, the safety of our troops abroad. But they won’t be fixed if they keep throwing up smoke streams and clutching pearls when meaningful enforceable legislation could be passed. Because we all know if a quarter of the things the incoming administration wants to do are attempted, it will all be caught up in lawsuits. But first our senators have to face the music and look at the real problems and come up with even small solutions instead of kicking the can down the road.

The real time and money that we the taxpayers have been saved comes in prosecuting all the forms of influence pedaling that Hunter Biden is probably guilty of. That is big serious stuff. HIs relations with China. His relations with the Ukraine. Etc. Hard to prove stuff, very detail oriented and expensive to go after. Now he’s clean of 10 years of lawbreaking activity, and all of it is not detailed. We don’t even know what we don’t know.

Never has there been such a broad pardon coming from the president. Anyone who is comparing this to Trump or Clinton pardons doesn’t understand what 10 years of pardoning of any crime federal level is. I can barely comprehend it, myself.

I will say, though, it’s a great new tool for Trump to take up, this broad pardon caper.

[Rogar]

Yes, it's been pretty interesting following the story in real time, Wikipedia has more of a Cliff Notes version.

One could speculate on the veracity of any reporting.
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