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    Great article, Catherine, thank you. I thought this was very true:

    "If you celebrate someone gunning down a defenceless person in the street, then you advocate for a world in which this is an acceptable thing for anyone to do. You in fact advocate for a world in which a stranger can decide that you’re also a bad person, and gun you down in the street. In such a world, I promise you, your health insurance would cost much more."

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    That's an interesting article. I don't follow any "bloggers", but apparently there is a world of people who do. The article refers to other bloggers having some unverified information I thought was interesting. More about the healthcare system than the murder. What ever Bernie is talking about when he says they are making HUGE profits must use different numbers? I tend to agree with the author, that they are bloated with inefficiencies.

    “the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy, ignoring the fact that the US’s healthcare costs are broadly in line with its income level, and its life expectancy has little to do with health insurance and much more to do with Americans being disproportionately obese, violent, and drug-addicted."

    "Health insurance companies don’t get rich by denying payouts for claims. UnitedHealthcare’s net profit margin is just 6.11%, which is only about half of the average profit margin of companies in the S&P 500. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    That's an interesting article. I don't follow any "bloggers", but apparently there is a world of people who do. The article refers to other bloggers having some unverified information I thought was interesting. More about the healthcare system than the murder.

    “the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy, ignoring the fact that the US’s healthcare costs are broadly in line with its income level, and its life expectancy has little to do with health insurance and much more to do with Americans being disproportionately obese, violent, and drug-addicted."

    "Health insurance companies don’t get rich by denying payouts for claims. UnitedHealthcare’s net profit margin is just 6.11%, which is only about half of the average profit margin of companies in the S&P 500. "
    One of the many requirements of Obamacare (The Affordable Care Act)
    was a limit to the amount of profit health insurance companies could make. They have to refund money if they make over X amount. I know my employer got this refund money.

    I would like to remind everyone, as I often do, that your president Obama made sure the Affordable Care Act was pegged so that everybody could, you know, afford it. Premiums are tied to your income. I guess anyone who can’t afford it must realize that the President was lying (?) Personally, I found the ACA to be affordable in my household when we had minimal income, and when we had a big income. It worked either way.

    I think so many people just like to gripe about healthcare, health insurance, healthcare outcomes. It is a national past time.

    I’ve heard our Swiss relatives gripe about what they would get over the border in Germany. Or maybe it was Austria.. Cannot remember which.
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    https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight...social%20care.

    This survey of citizens in the United Kingdom shows that only 23 percent are satisfied with their National Health Service. Looks like Rob‘s buddies need to kill some bureaucrats across the pond.

    https://insurancenewsnet.com/oarticl...new-poll-found

    This poll shows 59% of Americans are satisfied with their health insurance. Of course health “insurance “is different from “healthcare” of the NHS so I’m comparing apples and oranges here, but some conclusions can be drawn.

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