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    Wonder what staunch supporters of trump think about all the kerfluffle of the administration. Alan … what say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Wonder what staunch supporters of trump think about all the kerfluffle of the administration. Alan … what say you?
    Did something happen yesterday? I am trying not to follow Trumpian news with the breathless anticipation of people like you so I may have missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Wonder what staunch supporters of trump think about all the kerfluffle of the administration. Alan … what say you?
    I think it's interesting to watch the resistance response to the new executive branch of our government. I believe an audit looking for waste, fraud and abuse within the massive bureaucracy under its control is in order and it puzzles me that so many people disagree.

    I think that in a country of 340,000,000 people if the government is the largest employer in the nation, it may be too big.

    I believe that controlled immigration is a good thing but illegal immigration is bad.

    I believe that massive tariff's would do harm to our citizens if that were the end goal, but if it were a negotiating tactic to strengthen our economy by bringing production back to our country, the threat has merit and I would support that.

    Those seem to be the biggest sources of the current kerfuffle so now you're up to date on my thoughts. Would you care to share yours?
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    Truth be told, Alan, I try to limit my watching of the news but it is impossible to get away with not seeing trump. His ridiculous/unqualified picks for cabinet positions is worrisome. I don’t think Musk, who has contributed(bought) trump should be near any of government activities.. if for no other reason but conflict of interests. Eliminating the Dept of Education and USAID is ludicrous. We need to properly educate our children and aid given has been to countries, who in some situations, help combat diseases that could easily spread worldwide. The bottom line should not just be dollars saved. There needs to be protections in place for a number of occupations. musk and trump will try to eliminate safeguards. Just blanket closures of government departments is foolhardy IMO….AND illegal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Truth be told, Alan, I try to limit my watching of the news but it is impossible to get away with not seeing trump. His ridiculous/unqualified picks for cabinet positions is worrisome. I don’t think Musk, who has contributed(bought) trump should be near any of government activities.. if for no other reason but conflict of interests. Eliminating the Dept of Education and USAID is ludicrous. We need to properly educate our children and aid given has been to countries, who in some situations, help combat diseases that could easily spread worldwide. The bottom line should not just be dollars saved. There needs to be protections in place for a number of occupations. musk and trump will try to eliminate safeguards. Just blanket closures of government departments is foolhardy IMO….AND illegal!
    Has the Department of Education actually ever educated a child?

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    IL… Indirectly, by providing the means for many to be educated. I believe the demolition of this agency will be a detriment to education. The amount spent is not astronomical but the consequences of not keeping up with our adversaries could be. I would prefer not giving monies to charter schools…

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    IL… Indirectly, by providing the means for many to be educated. I believe the demolition of this agency will be a detriment to education. The amount spent is not astronomical but the consequences of not keeping up with our adversaries could be. I would prefer not giving monies to charter schools…
    They have an annual budget of nearly a quarter trillion dollars with some of that allocated to states but that seems to be dependent upon how faithfully those states follow their guidelines.

    There was no Dept of Education during my public school years but I seem to recall that our collection of state systems routinely ranked higher internationally than our current system does. I think the best thing our DOE could do would be to abandon the idea of controlling public education and focus on just helping fund it. I tend to doubt that requires 5000 employees issuing edicts to local districts in return for funding.
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    If you can believe Wikipedia, their budget was $238 billion in 2024, down from a high of $637 billion in 2022. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...t_of_Education
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I think it's interesting to watch the resistance response to the new executive branch of our government. I believe an audit looking for waste, fraud and abuse within the massive bureaucracy under its control is in order and it puzzles me that so many people disagree.

    I think that in a country of 340,000,000 people if the government is the largest employer in the nation, it may be too big.

    I believe that controlled immigration is a good thing but illegal immigration is bad.

    I believe that massive tariff's would do harm to our citizens if that were the end goal, but if it were a negotiating tactic to strengthen our economy by bringing production back to our country, the threat has merit and I would support that.

    Those seem to be the biggest sources of the current kerfuffle so now you're up to date on my thoughts. Would you care to share yours?
    I get all that, but what do you think of Musk's methodology? Both the staffing and the surprise aspect?

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