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    no but fleeing/fighting the Nazis COULD be the sound of music. literally or figuratively. Unless you like Wagner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    no but fleeing/fighting the Nazis COULD be the sound of music. literally or figuratively. Unless you like Wagner.
    The reference above was rescinding child labor laws in the US. Don’t understand your reference? Wagner?

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    Oh, sorry, there was much ado about Wagner being a favorite composer of Hitler. The Sound of Music is anti-Hitler. Anything anti-Hitler and all other wanna-be types is music to MY ears. A stretch to child labor laws but a direct link, IMHO, to other current goings-on that are equally distressing, anti-decency, and anti-democratic. Please pardon my mental meanderings. I shall attempt to cease and desist.

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    That's how I read it, early morning.
    Those of you who are so gung hung for deportations will be pleased to know that last week they deported a 10 year United States citizen because her parents were Mexican citizens, and they grabbed the family enroute to the child's cancer treatments and dumped them in an unfamiliar town in Mexico, and she will not get her cancer treatments and will probably die.
    There. There's your heroes in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    That's how I read it, early morning.
    Those of you who are so gung hung for deportations will be pleased to know that last week they deported a 10 year United States citizen because her parents were Mexican citizens, and they grabbed the family enroute to the child's cancer treatments and dumped them in an unfamiliar town in Mexico, and she will not get her cancer treatments and will probably die.
    There. There's your heroes in action.
    I find that context should be applied to stories such as this to help us better understand what has actually happened. I'm not sure if your source mentioned it or not but the girl was not deported, she could have remained in the US with a temporary guardian or under the care of the Texas social services system although her parents chose not to go that route. It's also unfair to assume for the sake of outrage that cancer treatments are not available in Mexico and that the girl will probably die as a result. Your source did you a dis-service by leading you to believe so, I absolutely detest "news" sources who do this sort of thing.

    I think it's terribly unfortunate for the girl to be in this position but I'm certain her parents will do the right thing and either make the proper arrangements to have her treated in the US or find a Mexican service provider and transfer her treatments to their home country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I find that context should be applied to stories such as this to help us better understand what has actually happened. I'm not sure if your source mentioned it or not but the girl was not deported, she could have remained in the US with a temporary guardian or under the care of the Texas social services system although her parents chose not to go that route. It's also unfair to assume for the sake of outrage that cancer treatments are not available in Mexico and that the girl will probably die as a result. Your source did you a dis-service by leading you to believe so, I absolutely detest "news" sources who do this sort of thing.

    I think it's terribly unfortunate for the girl to be in this position but I'm certain her parents will do the right thing and either make the proper arrangements to have her treated in the US or find a Mexican service provider and transfer her treatments to their home country.
    I hope that they can do so, and yes, there was nothing about how she could have stayed with a temporary guardian.
    I think it's terrible that they deported this family when they were getting cancer treatments for their child, and terrible a US citizen was deported.

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    In these days of disinformation it pays to check up on news sources. Last night the obnoxious ad from Homeland Security came on during my evening news program. Neom says that if you are forcibly deported, you can never return to the US. However, if you self deport you can some day come back and live the American dream. This is technically not true according to current law, but makes for good fear mongering. It pays these days to especially check on anything coming from the current regime of election and climate deniers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    In these days of disinformation it pays to check up on news sources. Last night the obnoxious ad from Homeland Security came on during my evening news program. Neom says that if you are forcibly deported, you can never return to the US. However, if you self deport you can some day come back and live the American dream. This is technically not true according to current law. It pays these days to especially check on anything coming from the current regime of election and climate deniers.

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    Yes, with the story I mentioned, I checked again and here is what it said from NBC. I am guessing the child was being treated at MD Anderson, which is the best cancer hospital in the world and probably where I would want my child treated if she had brain cancer:

    "As a 10-year-old girl with brain cancer and her family traveled from Rio Grande, Texas, to Houston for an emergency checkup in early February, immigration officers detained her, her undocumented parents and her four other siblings. The parents were later deported, and the children were also sent back to Mexico.
    Now, her parents wonder what will happen to the girl’s health, NBC News exclusively reported.
    NBC News withheld the names of the family to protect their safety, as they are now in an area of Mexico known for kidnapping of U.S. citizens.
    Four of the five children are U.S. citizens. The family traveled at least five other times between the two cities for the girl’s ongoing care associated with her pediatric brain cancer. The trip required going through an immigration checkpoint. On prior visits, the parents provided letters from lawyers and doctors, which allowed them safe passage, Danny Woodward from the Texas Civil Rights Project, which represents the family, told NBC.


    Officers detained her parents when they failed to show correct documentation of legal immigration status. While the mom pled with authorities about her daughter’s health, “they weren’t interested in hearing that," she recalled to NBC News in an exclusive interview.
    Other than not having "valid immigration status in the U.S.," the parents do not have a criminal history, according to Woodward."

    I think this is shameful, personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    I think this is shameful, personally.
    It is certainly wrong by any of my ethical standards. Not to mention the religious golden rule principals of the supposed Christian right, which any more seems like a political faction more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    It is certainly wrong by any of my ethical standards. Not to mention the religious golden rule principals of the supposed Christian right, which any more seems like a political faction more than anything.
    I agree... And you are right, Tybee, MD Anderson is one of the best cancer centers in the world. Plus, treatment is of the essence--delays in treatment, even short ones, can cost lives. So I don't think the parents have the time to shop around for health care in Mexico.
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