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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I don't think she'll every run for anything at this point. After reading her book, Becoming, I'm convinced that she feels she did her part for Barack's presidency, and now it's her time. I don't blame her for that. I respect her and her background--she is completely a self-made woman and no one handed her anything for free. Just my humble opinion.
    sure,I agree she did her bit for the presidency as do all the wives. I don’t especially like her tone when she talks about it, but maybe that’s just how she is normally. I don’t follow her that closely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    That's not what a lot of Republicans believe. To many, poor people are just lazy.

    I'm sure she did receive benefit from need-based scholarships, but she had the self-determination and the talents to go for it, as did you. Neither of you, from what I can tell, were born on third base. You chose to exercise your will in that direction. You can at least grant me that, right?
    One thing I really like in actual sincere discourse is when my position is not poorly represented.

    The discourse is much more effective when you talk about your own opinions, thoughts, beliefs. When you summarize the opinions of others, people like me, ya’ll so often get it wrong. Or you reduce our opinion to that of a cartoonish simpleton. I’m sure you can find all kinds of links that support your opinion that “Republicans think poor people are lazy “but what’s the point of that? You arent talking to those Republicans. or maybe you think you are.

    It is tiresome and that kind of discussion can be had in 1 million places on the Internet.

    It makes so much more sense to me that we actually talk to one another here rather than address a whole bunch of people not even in the room here. if you want me to defend the thought “poir people are just lazy “I won’t bother because it’s too stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    One thing I really like in actual sincere discourse is when my position is not poorly represented.

    The discourse is much more effective when you talk about your own opinions, thoughts, beliefs. When you summarize the opinions of others, people like me, ya’ll so often get it wrong. Or you reduce our opinion to that of a cartoonish simpleton. I’m sure you can find all kinds of links that support your opinion that “Republicans think. Poor people are lazy “but what’s the point of that? You weren’t talking to those Republicans. or maybe you think you are.

    it is tiresome and that kind of discussion can be had in 1 million places on the Internet.

    I make so much more sense to me that we actually talk to one another rather than address a whole of people not even in the room here. if you want me to defend the thought “per people are just lazy “I won’t bother because it’s too stupid.
    You're absolutely right. That line was a too-flip response to the comment bae made that no one is self-made But, still, I'm not going to edit it out, because I do think that too many Republicans--ok, too many people--and I'm not pointing a finger at anyone here, tend to believe in the philosophy that you only have to pull yourself up by your bootstraps to achieve the American Dream. And if you don't do that, you deserve the poverty you get.
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    One Democratic politician in my state who has tons of charisma, but unfortunately, lost his politician job and went to prison for campaign law breaking, is Jeff Smith. I am or was a Jeff Smith groupie.

    https://missouriindependent.com/author/jeff-smith/

    Our deposed former governor Eric Greitens had a lot of the magic charisma as well. He resigned due to a stupid scandal that wasn't even important in the grand scheme of things, but he does seem to have enough woman trouble that he might not survive the magnifying glass campaigns are under.

    so, I am coming up with 0

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    Don't people at large find Andy Brashear charismatic?

    I guess he is not charismatic enough for me to spell his name right, though.
    Last edited by Tybee; 5-8-25 at 1:09pm. Reason: misspelled his name

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    Don't people at large find Andy Brashear charismatic?

    I guess he is not charismatic enough for me to spell his name right, though.
    He is cute, I will give him that. otherwise I don’t know much about him

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