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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiam View Post
    This description of despicable characters reeks of Gen Z, dripping with scorn for anything "Boomer".
    But we Boomers deserve it. Those shows were pretty stupid compared to television shows of today. Anyway, Kids these days don’t understand the limitations of television Productions of the 50s, 60s, and 70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    But we Boomers deserve it. Those shows were pretty stupid compared to television shows of today. Anyway, Kids these days don’t understand the limitations of television Productions of the 50s, 60s, and 70s.
    There is some truth in this. But today's characters are often much worse. Sometimes, in well written shows, the bad characters are part of a character arc and that's fascinating thing to watch. Kudos to evolved writing and broader opportunities. But some things in today's television is absolutely cringeworthy. Especially the sexual stereotyping of both men and women.

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    My Favorite Martian, "Uncle Martin", pretty much sponged off of Bill Bixby by living in his apartment with no visible means of support and no job.

    Matt Dillon spent much of his on duty time downing beer in the Long Branch with Kitty and Doc. And then there's Boris Badenov.
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    I am reading The Boys by Ron and Clint Howard about their childhood days as TV stars. Lots of behind the scene descriptions of some of these characters from the 60s-70s TV shows. I always disliked Don Knotts Barney character but apparently his real personality was totally opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkytoe View Post
    I am reading The Boys by Ron and Clint Howard about their childhood days as TV stars. Lots of behind the scene descriptions of some of these characters from the 60s-70s TV shows. I always disliked Don Knotts Barney character but apparently his real personality was totally opposite.
    that was a super book--listened to it on a long drive in the fall and really liked it. Fascinating to hear the stories, as I was a big fan of Andy of Mayberry show, still am.

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    how about movies?

    There was one about an orphan boy who becomes radicalized after a military strike kills his family. He gets indoctrinated into an ancient religion, joins a band of rebel insurgents and carries out a terrorist attack that kills 300,000 people.

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    The past is often cringe-worthy, don't you think? TV just puts it back in our faces, because it's preserved in a way we can revisit, without benefit of fuzzily "remembering". Sure, some of our screen heroes were despicable in retrospect. Some of our REAL LIFE heroes were pretty awful people in retrospect. I don't see it as generational other than time changes what is and isn't acceptable, and hopefully for the better (present moment excepted!!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    The past is often cringe-worthy, don't you think? TV just puts it back in our faces, because it's preserved in a way we can revisit, without benefit of fuzzily "remembering". Sure, some of our screen heroes were despicable in retrospect. Some of our REAL LIFE heroes were pretty awful people in retrospect. I don't see it as generational other than time changes what is and isn't acceptable, and hopefully for the better (present moment excepted!!).
    Respective of that, and of what Rogar was saying about The Boys, Ron Howard said that Andy Griffith was already depicting the Mayberry (Mt Airy) of his boyhood growing up, and that he was deliberately painting it the way it was in the 1920's, and not in the 1950's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by early morning View Post
    The past is often cringe-worthy, don't you think? TV just puts it back in our faces, because it's preserved in a way we can revisit, without benefit of fuzzily "remembering". Sure, some of our screen heroes were despicable in retrospect. Some of our REAL LIFE heroes were pretty awful people in retrospect. I don't see it as generational other than time changes what is and isn't acceptable, and hopefully for the better (present moment excepted!!).
    I agree with this. About Andy: I remember feeling empathy for Opie when he did something punishable because he was told to go upstairs and wait for "his whoopin'. As one who received the occasional whoopin' it made me very dreadful for Opie.

    That would never fly on today's TV.
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    This thread reminds me a little of another thread I saw on another platform and the book Gone with Wind was being discussed. I realize that GWTW romanticizes the Old South, but it's still a compelling story and good literature. But I didn't realize the vituperative hatred for it from an entire population who have never even read it (admittedly). Most of whom, based on their profiles were also Gen Z. Yes, GWTW has its problems, but it hadn't occurred to me that people couldn't balance the two elements and read it for what it was. I didn't realize how villainized the book was. I gained a great deal from reading GWTW. I read at a time in my life when I was living in campgrounds with two young children and working at a fast food restaurant. It's one of those books I've never forgotten and I've reread it several times.

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