Have We Turned the Corner on Woke?

[LDAHL]

Some signs:

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting is no more.

DEI seems to be in retreat on multiple fronts.

A chorus of viewers with outrage attacked a series of blue jeans ads as white supremacy dog whistles. Instead of getting the groveling apology they were looking for, they just got laughed at.

Washington State’s law to force priests to inform on people confessing sins is, for the moment at least, stopped by injunction.

Paramount canned Colbert, but South Park abides.

They’re remaking The Naked Gun.

[iris lilies]

I am sad our neighbors to the north seem be getting more entrenched in it. I like that country. It’s so pretty and the people are nice.

The UK seems to be battling, but their Supreme court decision defining “woman “as an adult human female for purposes of their Equality Act is a good starting point to beat back the crazy. UK folks are increasingly unhappy with their numbers of illegal immigrants. Outrage is manifesting in street protests, and disrespect for Islamist propaganda is growing with concern about losing a cherished Western value of free speech. Of course the fairly recent exposure of rape gangs running amouk in the Muslim community is building.

But then, the Jew hatred in the UK is growing. I follow a contingent of young ( under age 40) male politically centrist (or conservative depending on your definition ) podcasters who are either Jewish or Jew adjacent. They are genuinely worried about their personal safety. These guys are not Ben Shapiro and they are not religious, but they have Jewish heritage or similar. There are Jewish symbols they would not dream of displaying on the street.

So I think it’s a mixed bag in the UK. I don’t think it’s a mixed bag in Canada.

As for the United States, man, we have so many states with different philosophies I don’t know where we have landed. One size is not fitting all, but certainly the woke culture is being beaten back in many jurisdictions.

[iris lilies]

I Only listen to NPR in the car anymore, and there were some sad justifications going on yesterday in my trip to St. Louis. They’re having a hard time with their new status.

[bae]

Well, if I look on the positive side, it’s a great day to be someone like me - white, male and straight-presenting, Ivy League, in the 1%, in good health, yada yada yada. Living the life of Riley. I just need to set aside empathy and kindness.

[Rogar]

I would use the term cancel culture over turned the corner.

I never consider NPR woke, just a little left of center. Semantics.

[iris lilies]

Well, if I look on the positive side, it’s a great day to be someone like me - white, male and straight-presenting, Ivy League, in the 1%, in good health, yada yada yada. Living the life of Riley. I just need to set aside empathy and kindness.

Oh my friend we could debate SO many points about rampant mean and hurtful actions of the woke brigade. Kind? Caring? Ha. Hahaha….

For one, I don’t think it’s at all kind to lead young and confused adolescents to body mutilation, not only lead them, but to insist there’s only one true path to keeping them from killing themselves. It is dispassionate and in my opinion borders on medical malpractice for certain patients.

there are many others, but I have to go deliver death notifications to our garden club groups so over and out.

[Alan]

I just need to set aside empathy and kindness.

I'm not sure it's particularly kind or empathetic to segment people into groups by race, sex, education, net worth, social status, etc., and then demand special rules that everyone must follow in their daily interactions with whatever group is most favored. I'd rather stick with the tried and true method of judging people by their character and believing that we're all part of the same group with our own individual backgrounds and idiosyncrasies. Woke won't allow that.

[LDAHL]

I would use the term cancel culture over turned the corner.

You have a point there. It may be more about the people and institutions who try to enforce wokeness losing influence.

[Rogar]

I'd rather stick with the tried and true method of judging people by their character and believing that we're all part of the same group with our own individual backgrounds and idiosyncrasies. Woke won't allow that.

One could say something similar about the far right, evangelicals, and other conservative groups who refuse alternate ideas in order to conform to their tribe, with a my way or the highway attitude. People in general tend to have preconceived opinions of others based on their tribal affiliations that bias the ability to judge others as unique individuals.

The online Websters defines woke as, "aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)." Current semantics seem to associate a more negative definition.

[pinkytoe]

I think we have reverse wokeness going on now. Why we can't meet in the middle and quit talking about this stuff is a mystery to me.