Did you see the MAGA hats the protesters in Greenland are touting? MAGA …. Make America Go Away!
Because of trump we truly are becoming the “ugly Americans”. It is going to be hard to travel internationally because of this dictator wannabe!
Did you see the MAGA hats the protesters in Greenland are touting? MAGA …. Make America Go Away!
Because of trump we truly are becoming the “ugly Americans”. It is going to be hard to travel internationally because of this dictator wannabe!
News I saw in a couple of places today said Trump's push for Greenland is some twisted version of his revenge tour for being snubbed by the Nobel prize committee. I didn't delve into the details. And Miller's comment about a nation that can't defend it's border doesn't deserve to be a sovereign nation???? That has some global implications, although he was probably just saying things.
"I spent the summer traveling: I got half-way across my backyard." Louis Aggasiz
I don't think that was actual 'News', but rather a celebration of bluster.Originally Posted by Rogar
I first became aware of Greenland's importance to the US back in the early 70's when people in my military career field were routinely being sent to Thule Greenland on 89 day temporary duty assignments (TDY). Luckily we've had agreements with Greenland in place for quite some time to act as host to a US military presence to act as early warning and first line of defense against bad actors in greater Europe and Asia. Other 'News' sources might tell you that some of those bad actors have designs on Greenland as well in order to neutralize the US advantage which has caused every administration in recent history to consider ways to strengthen the US presence there. I guess which version of 'News' you prefer is up to you.
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein
I'd like to back it up a little and ask, "Why are immigration officials masked and armed, and running around like SWAT teams in a particularly exciting adventure movie in the first place."
IMO, the long running narrative that if someone is "illegal" they are also an armed and dangerous desperado intent on murder and mayhem is media fueled absurdity, supported by a history of media Entertainment framing violence and espionage as environmental norms. Do those people exist? I suppose. Are they actually A Big Problem, in an ordinary sense, for ordinary people? My eyes tell me no. My experience tells me no. My relationships with real people tell me no. Most of this Threat has been manufactured and framed as a Big Problem to foment exactly the sort of division and rage and justification for "retaliatory" violence we're now seeing.
Kib, I think this has been coming for a long time. Project 2025, Heritage Foundation, KuKluxKlan...all part of it and now we have the AI and tech groups along with other big business. Scary as if The Deranged One goes away the problem will not.
This is really confusing. So - Trump saying he's peeved about Greenland in part because of not winning the Nobel Peace Prize isn't news, but "bluster"? So now his insane ravings are no longer "news"? Even when they directly relate to national security and potential military action? (They should be called out constantly! Words have meaning, and bluster has/SHOULD have social and political consequences. We should not become so used to this idiocy that we just normalize it.)I've not seen any "news" that says Greenland isn't important to Western defense. Is that really an argument somewhere? Of COURSE it's critical. I've not read anything that says Greenland was pushing to end any agreements we had with them - I'm sure they understand that WE are also critical to THEIR survival. That's why Denmark, and thus Greenland, joined NATO, isn't it? So we'd agree to back off the island after WWII, while still using it for our defense? We obviously don't want Russia or China to take it over. But, how does that justify US taking over? Sure, we can get more people/materials at Thule - and we've been doing that already, from what I'm reading. And maybe we want a larger base, or better weapons - that's a cause for a new treaty, not a bloody takeover! And surely, both the reports on the bluster, and reports on the actual concerns re: Greenland and defense, are news in the sense that people need to know, and understand, them.I don't think that was actual 'News', but rather a celebration of bluster.
I first became aware of Greenland's importance to the US back in the early 70's when people in my military career field were routinely being sent to Thule Greenland on 89 day temporary duty assignments (TDY). Luckily we've had agreements with Greenland in place for quite some time to act as host to a US military presence to act as early warning and first line of defense against bad actors in greater Europe and Asia. Other 'News' sources might tell you that some of those bad actors have designs on Greenland as well in order to neutralize the US advantage which has caused every administration in recent history to consider ways to strengthen the US presence there. I guess which version of 'News' you prefer is up to you.
kib, nswef - +1 !!
Yes. The infiltration of divisive perspectives into more or less every aspect of digital interaction, making everyone a target for propaganda on one side or the other and seemingly a player in this nightmare, is particularly worrisome.
yes the Russian and Chinese bots operating on our psyches are awful, and now add in our leaders who are falling into that same trap and egging their followers on.
And like all instigators, they are all old men at the top who will sit comfortably behind their desks while their minions are harmed by the chaos and possible violent mayhem.
Read this from EFF about the surveillance shopping spree ICE is going on.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/0...shopping-spree
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