Government Coup

[Rogar]

To me, I think it is a miracle of marketing that elections are so close these days. At least since Bush/Gore we have been in a position where elections can be, or are contentious. When it comes down to revisiting and recounting only one state in order to determine the president it indicates that somehow the campaign powers-that-be have managed to split the country darn near evenly. If the elections weren't so close, this would not be as big of an issue.

My idea of election reform would be elimination of the electoral college and base presidential elections on the popular vote. That might elimination at least some of the gerrymandering to gain advantage.

[frugal-one]

Meh. Both acts would have empowered the federal government to set rules for state elections. Both deserve to fail as being incompatible with a federalist system. Much like the filibuster or gerrymandering, positions seem to be taken based more on transient expediency than on principle.

Hey, we agree on something! You obviously disagree on trump’s vision to “nationalize” voting!

[frugal-one]

My idea of election reform would be elimination of the electoral college and base presidential elections on the popular vote. That might elimination at least some of the gerrymandering to gain advantage.

I agree.

[catherine]

My idea of election reform would be elimination of the electoral college and base presidential elections on the popular vote. That might elimination at least some of the gerrymandering to gain advantage.

I am not sure I agree with the abolition of the electoral college because it would be too easy for the urban centers to determine the outcome.

[early morning]

I am not sure I agree with the abolition of the electoral college because it would be too easy for the urban centers to determine the outcome

I say this as a rural person, who has ALWAYS been a rural person - if there are more people in urban areas, why should they NOT determine outcomes? Why should we, who chose to live in the sticks, have more power and influence than the millions who live in urban areas? I want them happy in their urban setting, and I want them to have their needs met, in part for the purely selfish reason that then they will stay in their urban abodes, and not build mega-mansions in the cow pastures and bean fields!

[LDAHL]

Hey, we agree on something! You obviously disagree on trump’s vision to “nationalize” voting!

I have many issues with Trump’s visions. Although I see them more as transitory whimsical eructations than as fully formed ideas.

I think it’s interesting that the two GOP presidents of the last century or so most reviled by the Democrats (Nixon and Trump) were the ones who behaved the most like Democrats.

[frugal-one]

I have many issues with Trump’s visions. Although I see them more as transitory whimsical eructations than as fully formed ideas.

I think it’s interesting that the two GOP presidents of the last century or so most reviled by the Democrats (Nixon and Trump) were the ones who behaved the most like Democrats.

No way is that true.

[Rogar]

I have many issues with Trump’s visions. Although I see them more as transitory whimsical eructations than as fully formed ideas.

I think it’s interesting that the two GOP presidents of the last century or so most reviled by the Democrats (Nixon and Trump) were the ones who behaved the most like Democrats.

The thing about trumps brain addled delusional fantasies is that he may pick one and send out his minions to make real. Take Greenland or birthright citizenship for example. Another of his delusions has been the predictions of the glorious future of the bitcoin, which just reached satisfying price dropping below 2024 levels. So I do suppose those have been transitory after their disruptions. ICE, tariffs, and voter reform maybe here to stay, or not.

As far as Nixon and trump goes, both are/were incomparable overt crooks, although one could quibble over policy. We can at least thank Nixon for the EPA, which trump has done everything in his power to diminish.

[iris lilies]

I have many issues with Trump’s visions. Although I see them more as transitory whimsical eructations than as fully formed ideas.

I think it’s interesting that the two GOP presidents of the last century or so most reviled by the Democrats (Nixon and Trump) were the ones who behaved the most like Democrats.

hunh. I never thought of Nixon as being remotely a Democrat in actions. What did he do that makes you say that?

But Trump, sure, he is unmoored philosophically. He can go anywhere tilting at anything that seems opportunistic.

[littlebittybobby]

okay----see, this is why we really need Greenland. Denmark doesn't need it; they could not defend it without our help, anyway. So anyway----if Greenland was a U.S. possession, it could be used in the same way Britain used Australia. Basically, for warehousing our surplus population. People that don't "fit in", if you will. But yeah---that's a good solution. It worked for Britain. Now you know. Thankk mee.