Operation Epic Fury

[frugal-one]

Thought trump while campaigning promoted peace, lower prices and a variety of other things? trump cannot be trusted to do what he says!

See also he is promoting a big fight at the white house on his birthday. He has no class or decorum. Wonder how much he is making off it as well. He is the preferment of self-grandising. He is totally self-serving. I don’t believe he cares about the best interest of our country … only what he can personally gain. Disheartening to see this authoritarian regime unfold.

[LDAHL]

Yes, I think we are stuck with hearing about the Epstein files for the millennia.

I have to admit I felt a rush of nostalgia when Bill Clinton testified “I did nothing wrong”.

[LDAHL]

This morning I am astonished, it is beyond my comprehension, that there are self proclaimed progressives offering sadness that the Khomeini regime in Iran toppled.

i *do* understand:

* concern about Trump acting war-like without Congress backup… that is always a concern with any President in these actions

* concern about the US being dragged into a never-ending conflict

* this attack by the US and Israel provoking a big conflation in the Middle East that spreads into a bigger uncontrollable war

I consider all three of these to be reasonable concerns by normal thinking, logical Americans.

I would warn AOC and Newsome and any other politician who is courting the lefty loos to be VERY careful in their messaging about this. if they hint that they are sorry Khomeini went down, their opponent will take advantage of that and promote it, and that stupidity will not resonate with the American public.

I’m not as worried as some about a wider war. Iran has burned bridges with pretty much every other state in the region over the years. Their proxies have been decimated over the last few years as well. Russia is dealing with its own conflict. Almost half the oil passing through the Strait of Hormuz is headed for China, so I doubt they’ll show much support for an extended conflict.

As far as our progressive activist class is concerned, I think all the usual suspects will say all the usual things for the usual political reasons. They will mostly be preaching to the choir.

If things were to go badly, we might see a normally supine Congress make some effort to regain some of the war powers authority they have surrendered over the years. That could (possibly) be a good thing.

[bae]

I’m not as worried as some about a wider war. Iran has burned bridges with pretty much every other state in the region over the years.

Iran's initial, and ongoing, counterattack looka to me like a foolish attempt to drag in nearly every other country in the region. That did not turn out as planned, it seems to have brought together those countries in opposition to Iran. Morons.

This is a classic problem with a decapitation attack, you get all those now-sorta-independent units out there acting on standing orders or their own initiative.

If things were to go badly, we might see a normally supine Congress make some effort to regain some of the war powers authority they have surrendered over the years. That could (possibly) be a good thing.

I think if we are to have war with Iran, it should go through the Constitutional process.

[frugal-one]

I think if we are to have war with Iran, it should go through the Constitutional process.

Absolutely!

[Rogar]

I have to admit I felt a rush of nostalgia when Bill Clinton testified “I did nothing wrong”.

Come to think of it, it did sound familiar. Or like Nixon's, I am not a crook. I expect trumps story to be similar.

My take is that Iran willy nilly fired off as many missiles as possible before the Tomahawk Cruises decimated their launch sites. Drones might be a different story, but they don't seem to cause as much damage.

[Tradd]

I have to admit I felt a rush of nostalgia when Bill Clinton testified “I did nothing wrong”.

That made me laugh.

[Alan]

[iris lilies]

haha!

[littlebittybobby]

okay----but Ronnie Ray-gunn would be so proud! So anyway----Bad Orange Man should be featured on a multi-segment episode of "Dirty Jobs", if that show is still on. Yup. Hope that helps you kids.