Intl Energy Agency urges ways to save fuel during crisis

[LDAHL]

And fracking, horizontal drilling and oil sand extraction which unlocked massive amount of oil reserves, oil surpluses, and freed us from total energy dependence from the mid-east. Fertilizer is a different issue.

I wonder if big oil in the US is relishing the new profit margins for the same amount of production?

I lost a bit of money on an oil shale firm called TOSCO back in the day. Fracking didn’t strike me as practical, which shows you I much I know.

[LDAHL]

Yeah, Reagan was about as depressing as could be. We went from a president who was totally focused on the plight of the common American, and then got Reagan, with his anti-union, welfare queen rhetoric, his collusion in Iran/Contra, Ollie North, Fawn Hall, and so on. From moral to - let's say LESS THAN moral. Terribly depressing, I agree.

We went from an ineffectual moralizer to morning in America.

He and Paul Volcker had the courage to bring inflation under control. He oversaw the end of the Soviet Union. But most of all, he made it OK to put the endless whining and self-hatred of the seventies behind us.

[Rogar]

I lost a bit of money on an oil shale firm called TOSCO back in the day. Fracking didn’t strike me as practical, which shows you I much I know.

I remember some oil shale developments in western Colorado that went bust in maybe the 70's or 80's. Without making a study of it, I assume the technology has improved. This is what AI says,

"Today, over 79% of U.S. natural gas and 65% of oil is produced via fractured wells."

[Rogar]

So ironic that the technologies that can buffer fossil fuel crises like this are the ones that Trump is shutting down.

I know. After so many mid-east crisis, wars over oil, energy shortages, pollutions, etc., you'd think renewables would not get such resistance. It doesn't make good sense.

[rosarugosa]

I'm glad we are at a point in time where we don't need to do much driving. We do heat our house with oil, but we are on a level billing plan and it's early spring, so we won't feel the full impact on heating our home until the fall. I know that there is a ripple effect though, and increased fuel prices will increase the price of everything else.

[Rogar]

This was in today's news. Far be it from me to understand, other than big money in big oil?

The Trump administration announced it will pay nearly $1 billion to French energy giant TotalEnergies in exchange for the company abandoning plans to build offshore wind farms in the Atlantic Ocean and instead pursue fossil fuel projects in the US.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/23/climate/trump-totalenergies-offshore-wind-cancellation

[early morning]

[QUOTEhe made it OK to put the endless whining and self-hatred of the seventies behind us.][/QUOTE]

huh, I sure missed all of that, and asking around my age-group of friends and acquaintances, they don't remember it like that, either. We were sure all hyped up for the bicentennial. Glad when the war was finally over. Proud that young people had made a difference in how that war was perceived. Proud that the civil rights movement was ongoing, including the AIM and women's rights, and being implemented (abet in fits and starts). Proud of the increasing opportunities for marginalized groups. Is that the self-hatred and whining you're speaking of?

[iris lilies]

[QUOTEhe made it OK to put the endless whining and self-hatred of the seventies behind us.]

huh, I sure missed all of that, and asking around my age-group of friends and acquaintances, they don't remember it like that, either. We were sure all hyped up for the bicentennial. Glad when the war was finally over. Proud that young people had made a difference in how that war was perceived. Proud that the civil rights movement was ongoing, including the AIM and women's rights, and being implemented (abet in fits and starts). Proud of the increasing opportunities for marginalized groups. Is that the self-hatred and whining you're speaking of?

There was a lot of hatred shown for those who served in the military.

That stupid Vietnam war was pointless, and it is tragic so many young men died in it, and it’s also sad that those who served were treated like crap. I was against the war then and looking back, still am.

There was a lot of stupid violence in the 70s towards The Man which now I suppose we would call corporate entities. You know, the Weathermen bombing buildings, Black Panthers raising hell, student uprisings and etc.

[early morning]

There was a lot of hatred shown for those who served in the military.

That stupid Vietnam war was pointless, and it is tragic so many young men died in it, and it’s also sad that those who served were treated like crap. I was against the war then and looking back, still am.

There was a lot of stupid violence in the 70s towards The Man which now I suppose we would call corporate entities. You know, the Weathermen bombing buildings Black Panthers raising hell and student uprisings and etc.

I do not disagree with what you say. There was a lot of frustration with the status quo and frustration (as we see currently) can lead to really bad decisions. But there was a lot of positive energy and a desire to make things better. A sense of being part of a movement that would improve the social structure. I simply don't see it as "self-hatred and whining" - just a lot of people who were trying to improve things for the "common man", which was seen as being to the detriment of "The Man". Having a brother in the military, I was saddened by the treatment of returning vets, although I personally saw more of the "hate the war and the generals, not the soldier" type behaviors. And our government was complicit in the mistreatment of vets, as it is today, abet not to such a degree. Whether one supports any military action or not, the average solider/sailor/etc. involved deserves our respect and appreciation, in addition to any needed post-war assistance from our government.

[iris lilies]

I do not disagree with you what you say. There was a lot of frustration with the status quo and frustration (as we see currently) can lead to really bad decisions. But there was a lot of positive energy and a desire to make things better. A sense of being part of a movement that would improve the social structure. I simply don't see it as "self-hatred and whining" - just a lot of people who were trying to improve things for the "common man", which was seen as being to the detriment of "The Man". Having a brother in the military, I was saddened by the treatment of returning vets, although I personally saw more of the "hate the war and the generals, not the soldier" type behaviors. And our government was complicit in the mistreatment of vets, as it is today, abet not to such a degree. Whether one supports any military action or not, the average solider/sailor/etc. involved deserves our respect and appreciation, in addition to any needed post-war assistance from our government.

Yes, truth.