Need y'all's help again; What is True Wealth?

[catherine]

extremely large bookkeeping debits…
plentiful riches …

never played the game but says can use multiple words

The game gives you 5 words you can't say, but you can use as many words as you want to get the person to say it.

So for true wealth, I can't say the words I listed, but I could say something like, "This is when hen you feel you have a sense of abundance (thanks IL), in the form of enjoyment of nature, a sense of connection with the people in your family and community, and you enjoy."

[rosarugosa]

Material wealth - having adequate resources to meet all current needs and many wants, and feeling reasonable confident that those resources will be adequate to sustain us through the future.

Non-material wealth - having good health and mental acuity to support an enjoyable lifestyle filled with satisfyingly meaningful endeavors. Having good relationships with friends and family for both mutual companionship and support. Having ready access to nature, art and literature. Having control over one's own time and resources.

[catherine]

Same chapter, but different spin on the original question:

Please tell me, "what does security mean to you?" Wide open question.

[iris lilies]

Same chapter, but different spin on the original question:

Please tell me, "what does security mean to you?" Wide open question.

my gut reaction: security is freedom from fear. Fear of – anything really.

I am an extremely secure person. I’m extremely content as well so I think security must play into contentedness, or even happiness. It’s probably somewhat genetic. Dr. Arthur Brooks, that professor of happiness at Harvard, says happiness is determined 50% by Our genes.

When I lived in the murder capital of the United States, I often did my walking regime at night. My friends would occasionally ask me “aren’t you scared “but I wasn’t. That might be stupid to not have that “gift of fear “ (there is a book with that title) But it’s the truth.

When somebody broke into our house in midmorning one day when both of us were at work, I didn’t feel scared or violated or horrified or fearful. I just felt annoyance that the asshole broke down our back door and it was incredibly inconvenient because DH was going out of town the next day and he couldn’t fix it so we had to barricade the back door until he came home a few days later to rebuild it. I didn’t care that the idiot took our television. It was just a dumb TV.

if I have one generalized fear throughout my life, I suppose it’s fear of not having adequate money. I always had adequate money. That’s because I piled it up and hoarded it. My parents always had adequate money so it’s not as though I was in a deprived childhood. I can’t say I had “money insecurity” but I was mindful to always have a stash so I would not feel any insecurity.

[catherine]

my gut reaction: security is freedom from fear. Fear of – anything really.

I'd love to ask you what that means for you... what maes you fearful.. if you don't want to answer, I understand. You can DM me if you want. (So can the rest of y'all.)

[iris lilies]

I'd love to ask you what that means for you... what maes you fearful.. if you don't want to answer, I understand. You can DM me if you want. (So can the rest of y'all.)

I did expand my answer above. But sure I have little phobias, but they are situational like: the plane crashing when I’m flying. Having a big truck run into me in bad weather on an interstate. Crashing a car if a road is icy,

when we lived in the city I had a phobia that someone would steal my dog if he was outside in our fenced yard.

[happystuff]

Wow, catherine. This one is really making me think. I understand what IL is saying and about having "fears". I think I'll take a different approach and say that security to me is having viable, positive options. And I guess by this I mean, having the ability/knowledge/finances/fortitude/etc. to respond and react to situations - any kind of situation - in a positive, healthy way. Not hurting anyone while being able to maneuver through life.

Does that makes sense? LOL. Not sure it does, but you've definitely given me food for thought.

[Tybee]

I really like your reflections, happystuff-- options-- this is truly security.

[early morning]

Well, I like happystuff's thoughts on the matter, will think on that slant a bit more - Personally, I'm a little more down-beat about it. It has always seemed to me that security is an illusion. We can plan, save, hoard, eat right, live right (whatever that may be) learn survival skills, and stuff still happens. Not that we SHOULDN'T do those things, because odds are they will help us out and make for an easier life - but still. There is no absolute control of all factors, and thus, no true security. I think perhaps these are the fears IL is referencing. I know they are mine, lol. That, and running out of money, because we don't have much of that particular commodity.

[iris lilies]

Well, I like happystuff's thoughts on the matter, will think on that slant a bit more - Personally, I'm a little more down-beat about it. It has always seemed to me that security is an illusion. We can plan, save, hoard, eat right, live right (whatever that may be) learn survival skills, and stuff still happens. Not that we SHOULDN'T do those things, because odds are they will help us out and make for an easier life - but still. There is no absolute control of all factors, and thus, no true security. I think perhaps these are the fears IL is referencing. I know they are mine, lol. That, and running out of money, because we don't have much of that particular commodity.

Sure, feeling secure is a feeling. Feelings are not facts. So yes, A feeling of control of our lives, i.e. security, is an illusion. There’s nothing wrong with that, we Are all going to have some kind of general feeling about the path and status of our life.

Isn’t it better that we have the overall feeling that we have some control over our lives? I think it is. I see people who drift in life, or who bounce from tragedy to tragedy because their view of their lives is life just happens to them, they don’t have agency over what happens to them. That is a ridiculous way to live and almost guarantees that bad things will happen.