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    Quote Originally Posted by peggy View Post
    And yet you feel perfectly comfortable coming to his defense. Pretty sloppy Alan, to pontificate on an episode you have no knowledge of, or maybe that's your usual MO. I suppose in the future we should read your posts with this in mind. Thanks for the heads up.
    Please point out where I came to his defense. I must have missed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Perhaps I'm too progressive in my thinking, for I believe women should not have to rely on men to defend themselves and their honor, but should be ready, willing, and able to take up the task on their own. We should be well past the age of paternalism and women-as-property of the pater familias by now (well, since Publius Aelius Trajanus Hadrianus Augustus at least...).
    I believe we are past this age and have been for a while. It's hard to fight the biological need to protect our children though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cattledog View Post
    I believe we are past this age and have been for a while. It's hard to fight the biological need to protect our children though.
    Agreed. As a father, I'd feel the same impulse in defense of a son or daughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peggy View Post
    I do value your opinion Gregg, but you aren't the national spokesperson for the republican party. He isn't just a media personality, you know it, I know it and the republican party knows it. You example to M*A*S*H really is no comparison. Yea, MASH was popular, but it didn't speak for or hold the short hairs to any political party. No political leader that I know of feared to speak ill of the show in fear of Alan alda speaking out against them. Rush Limbaugh controls every republican politician, and this is why you won't hear a single one speak out against him. Not one. And do you think all of them think it's ok to publicly deride and slander a young woman simply because she wished to testify before congress? All of them? Now what does that say about these 'wonderful' leaders? Oh they all try to skirt it by saying, well, you know, he is just an entertainer, but that is false. Period. If he were just an entertainer, they wouldn't think twice about calling out his intimidation of a congressional witness, cause that's what it was. But you know what we will hear from these 'courageous' republican leaders in congress.....crickets.
    I have been dinking around on the web, listening a little to Rush since I never do...
    I was looking for Rush in his own words calling Fluke a slut and I came across this segment where Rush is saying that Sen. McConnell's office was calling his show the day of the Blunt Amendment to clarify some things before Rush went on the air

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq8FyXCz450

    Rush is a huge, effective megaphone for the conservative platform and many Republicans happen to be conservative - just admit it

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Perhaps I'm too progressive in my thinking, for I believe women should not have to rely on men to defend themselves and their honor, but should be ready, willing, and able to take up the task on their own. We should be well past the age of paternalism and women-as-property of the pater familias by now (well, since Publius Aelius Trajanus Hadrianus Augustus at least...).
    The pater familias will always protect his young, no matter how progressive we get, or how old the daughter is.
    I would hope he would come to her defense, just as she would come to his. I never wish to see the day we get so progressive that we cease to defend the honor of each other.
    A scratch on the daughter pierces the fathers heart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnlaurel View Post
    I have been dinking around on the web, listening a little to Rush since I never do...
    I was looking for Rush in his own words calling Fluke a slut and I came across this segment where Rush is saying that Sen. McConnell's office was calling his show the day of the Blunt Amendment to clarify some things before Rush went on the air

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq8FyXCz450

    Rush is a huge, effective megaphone for the conservative platform and many Republicans happen to be conservative - just admit it
    And Media Matters participates in weekly conference calls with the White House. http://educationviews.org/2012/02/23...been-neutered/

    Is that a bad thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan View Post
    And Media Matters participates in weekly conference calls with the White House. http://educationviews.org/2012/02/23...been-neutered/

    Is that a bad thing?
    I guess what I am trying to point out is if Rush really were an 'entertainer' why would McConnells office call him right before a show.

    Does the White House or DNC call John Stewart or Colbert before their shows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan View Post
    Please point out where I came to his defense. I must have missed it.
    Alan, this whole thread is about the despicable things Rush said. That's what this thread is about. It isn't a birth control debate. We've had that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnlaurel View Post
    Does the White House or DNC call John Stewart or Colbert before their shows?
    I don't know, but it has been reported that Media Matters, which provides material whole cloth to MSNBC and a slew of progressive commentators, regularly coordinates their talking points directly with White House staff. Sort of makes you wonder who's working for who doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peggy View Post
    Alan, this whole thread is about the despicable things Rush said. That's what this thread is about. It isn't a birth control debate. We've had that one.
    Well, that didn't answer the question and I'm still no closer to understanding how I came to his defense. Thanks for responding though.
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