I live in Oregon and there are no Chick-Fil-a locations in the state. There was one in a mall years ago but it closed. I can't eat their food because I am gluten intolerant and there is very little on their menu to choose that is gluten free. That said I probably wouldn't eat there because I try to support businesses that support tolerance.
Pot and Kettle Peg. You crack me up!Originally Posted by peggy
Gosh, I've never heard about that. I did hear about an attempt by a Chicago newspaper to link the chain's dress code to anti-gay discrimination (apparently they won't allow male employees to wear earrings on the job), but I've never seen or heard anything about actual discrimination in hiring or serving of customers. With 1500 or so stores in 40 states, you'd think there'd be a documented case of it by now. Maybe you could give us details?
The only practical discrimination I've seen so far is from those cities and Mayors who have expressed their desire to forbid the chain from operating in their jurisdictions after finding them guilty of thought crimes.
edited to add:
We've been fans of the food and their advertising signs for a long time. This is my oldest grandson at Halloween, 2003.
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"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein
I'm just glad that leadership in this country is now in the hands of fast food execs..
DUBLIN, OH—Responding to Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy's recent controversial admission of the company's donations to antigay groups, a statement from competing fast food chain Wendy’s let consumers know Monday that it has long supported same-sex couples and only harbors strong objections to interracial marriage. "It's important that Wendy’s customers know our restaurant proudly stands by the right of all Americans to marry whomever they choose, so long as it isn't someone of a different race,” said spokeswoman Jenna Knox, adding that while Wendy’s has always backed pro-gay legislation, it found miscegenation "an abominable offense to God’s will." "Just like our founder Dave Thomas, we dream of living in an America where two loving people of the same sex can freely wed, provided of course that both people are also of the same race, and that no black, Asian, Latin American, or other non-European heritage is allowed to de-purify the white racial bloodline." Following the Wendy’s statement, executives from Jack in the Box confirmed that they too had always supported gay rights and the Holocaust never happened. http://tinyurl.com/ctuzx8g
True that. How does anyone know that those whose issue is gay rights weren't upset with Obama when this was his position? I mean really unless that is a cause you have spend much time following, a pet cause of yours, you don't know. It's just random stereotyping. There is opposition to Obama on the left you know (if they are even left, one doesn't even know that, just that they favor gay rights). Whether they would vote for Obama or not even if he continued to take the position, I don't know and I don't care. I don't care that much if people do "lesser of two evils" voting. I mostly only care that people know with full awareness what they vote for and they stop being so supportive of nonsense *outside* the voting booth.sadly, some on this thread wasted no time in trying to 'connect' this to Obama, oddly enough, and democrats. Ideologues do get tiresome in their constant swing around into the party line no matter what the discussion is about. It is election time, isn't it ((sigh))
Trees don't grow on money
That has been my take, too. As one of the top officers, his public self reflects on the company. Especially as the financial officer! I am a dyed-in-the-wool progressive, and what this dude did was effed up.
First off, he berated a low-wage hourly worker who had NO choice about dealing with him. She acquitted herself beautifully, bless her. The blatant classicism was nauseating. Harassing a line worker gives him meaning? Go collect unemployment, you twit. (Oh, wait, you were fired for cause. Never mind!)
Secondly, his homophobic "there's no gay in me" statement. WTF does that even MEAN?!?
Lastly, videoing & posting the entire sordid incident... Can we say narcissist? He sounded & acted like a 14 year old. And this guy is a college lecturer & was a CFO? Oy.
All in all, this boy is not an ally to the Marriage Equality movement!
Sidestepping the pointless Obama-bashing:
1) I think boycotts and anti-boycotts (the "show of support" day) are a perfectly fine way to express one's support or lack thereof of an organization, at least in a democracy.
2) While I don't happen to agree on Chick-Fil-A's "policy" on gay marriage, I am not in charge of the political leanings of every corporation in this country. They are all free to do as they wish within the law. Changing the law is another matter outside the scope of the O.P.'s topic.
3) Chick-Fil-A should have a policy against handing out free water. Problem solved. If he wants to pay for the privilege of harassment, well, perhaps this event will help the collected store managers develop some kind of protection policy for line workers, allowing them to simply walk away.
4) Adam Smith appears, by all evidence, to be a world-class jackhole, and his cowardly, abusive actions make me want to take out the industrial-strength can of whuppass and put THAT on YouTube. His employer is free to do what they feel is best for the organization, including firing him, if a) they feel he has done some form of damage to the company, and b) local/federal laws and their own corporate policy manual allows that firing. I'm not inclined to waste any time defending this guy.
Seems like another non-issue being puffed up by a rabid media and an unabashed media whore, wasting a lot of peoples' time and inciting even more polarization.
As if we needed it.
That shouldn't be difficult since there hasn't been any. Unless, of course, you believe that pointing out the similarities between Mr Cathy's views and the longstanding views of our President is somehow inappropriate.
I agree with you on all other points made.
"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein
Not only a long, desperate stretch (unless you know something about Obama's personal views on the bible's interpretation of homosexuality that I don't) but more important, doesn't seem germane to the conversation I.L. appears to have wanted to have: "What about all this boycott business, and what's up with this Smith jerk anyway?" is how I personally interpreted her post, fwiw.
I'm sure the owners of the local Woolworths down South in the '60s were only following their "values" too.
According to recent reports, large numbers of voters in the Deep South still think interracial marriage should be illegal*. New-fangled ideas percolate slowly there, it would appear.
*http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...ssissippi.html
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